Spoilers NO SPOILERS FOR CODA - A Lit-verse Grand Finale...What We Know (Spoilers for Entire Lit-verse)
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People keep misunderstanding that Scotty's transwarp formula in the '09 movie was not about long-range interstellar beaming in general, but specifically beaming onto a ship in warp, hence the name (though Scotty's clumsily written dialogue confused the issue, and STID got it wrong). Interstellar transporters have been a known technology since the 23rd century, used by the Triskelions, Aegis, and Kalandans, and were also seen in use by DaiMon Bok in TNG: "Bloodlines" and the Nyrians in VGR: "Displaced." (Along with other forms of long-range teleportation like Iconian gateways and Sikarian trajectors.) And Emory Ericksen was researching them as early as the 2150s. So there are too many distinct origins for that technology to attribute it to a single person.
Both "Bloodlines" and ST '09 made it clear, though, that interstellar beaming was too dangerous to be practical. And I can understand why, just from the standpoint of margins of error. If you can reduce the margin of error to something like a tenth of a millimeter when beaming, say, 5000 kilometers from ship to surface, so that everyone's feet materialize on the ground, then if you're beaming 10 light years, that margin of error blows up to around 2000 kilometers, and you're more likely to materialize in orbital space or the planet's molten core. It might work if there's a receiving station at the other end to lock onto, but then it could only be used for travel to established, settled destinations. (Note that Gary Seven was beaming to his office-vault transporter and got intercepted by the Enterprise's transporter. The Triskelions intercepted a beam and brought it to them, and the Kalandans beamed a ship into open space, so exact targeting wasn't needed. And the Nyrian translocator worked by swapping two people with each other, which could be how they solved the targeting issue. As for Bok, he was just crazy enough to risk it.)
It wasn't made overt, but I think it's probably the "hot war" seen in "Storm Front," when the TCW erupted into a more active, chaotic stage that led the various factions to put an end to the conflict at last.
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Although RTD did consider for a time modifying the story for something with Tennant where instead of a Star Trek crossover, the Doctor ends up on a ship similar to but legally distinct from a Starfleet ship. It would even have fueled the "Is Starfleet a military?" argument with the Doctor being uncomfortable around "an obviously military outfit claiming to be peaceful explorers."
Wasn't that one of the ideas he was thinking about for Tennant's regeneration story? I seem to recall that from the final edition of The Writer's Tale, though I could be conflating it with something else.
It's long range beaming also. They beamed from Titan to the Narada in Earth orbit at the end of ST'09, and Khan explicitly used a bag-sized device to beam all the way from Earth to Kronos in Into Darkness (ignoring Alan Dean Foster's novelization retcon)
All that with a software patch.
Yes, that goes without saying when talking about beaming onto a ship at warp. The point is that it's not the first or only form of interstellar beaming, and it bewilders me how many people assume it is, forgetting "Bloodlines" and "Displaced" and multiple TOS episodes. Scotty dinna invent the thing. He just refined it to hit an FTL moving target.
D'oh. You're right. I'm a maroon, as Daffy Duck would say.
But are you a Monster Maroon?
Elias Vaughn will come back to life, and be the only one who remembers the old universe. Except in this new universe, no one will remember him. So he will go from being the guy who everyone in Starfleet was old friends with to a complete nobody.
"I swear, I was friends with Picard! And Kira! And T'Prynn! And Spock! I used to be somebody!"
"I swear, I was friends with Picard! And Kira! And T'Prynn! And Spock! I used to be somebody!"
So now I'm imagining Elias Vaughn in a Power Girl outfit. Thanks alot.
Random question... I keep seeing references to a DS9 story with a "hollow moon." I admit I'm a few novels behind, but what book did I miss...?
It’s quite fitting that David Mack gets to wrap up this version of the 24th century. By my count he has written more post-finale stories than anyone but perhaps KRAD, and that count is debatable depending on when we begin counting, and if the Mirror Universe stories count. And certainly David Mack has written many more Trek stories besides.
Is David Mack the most published Trek author of all time? He must be up there as far as print stories go, in the ranks of Peter David and Michael Jan Friedman, though certainly those two also have a huge number of comic credits.
Is David Mack the most published Trek author of all time? He must be up there as far as print stories go, in the ranks of Peter David and Michael Jan Friedman, though certainly those two also have a huge number of comic credits.
The Endalla storyline (MB link with a slightly outdated spoiler summery) was first teased in "Rough Beasts of Empire" and "Revelation and Dust," and kicks off in more detail in "Sacraments of Fire" and "Ascendance."
It wasn't the regeneration story, but I do believe RTD was considering doing it for one of Tennant's 2009 specials.
Do you mean Hollow MEN? There is a novel called that.
I love these ideas for Coda, but I’m hoping no one here is even close and we get something from far left field.
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So will this story incorporate all of the 24th century Litverse - including the S.C.E., New Frontier, I.K.S. Gorkon/Klingon Empire, and/or aspects of The Lost Era - or is it strictly TNG/DS9/VOY/Titan? Also, if this does end up being the Trek version of Crisis on Infinite Earths, does that mean we might see some Myriad Universes pop up?
No ,^#%^#>^%%. way!
I’ve never actually read Crisis on Infinite Earths, but I don’t think this story is going to end up being an equivalent, and I’m certain the writers aren’t trying to duplicate it’s story beats.
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