It's few days hard ride, and the old king is still back at the castle.
No Merlin thread?
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I don't see Arthur or Merlin willing to do something like that, but I could see them chucking the uncle in, if his traitorous side comes out or even Morgana sacrificing him, if the plan seems too destructive.
Arthur said that he was going to do it.
Merlin said that he was going to do it to save Arthur.
It's the noble and honourable thing to do.
The Dungeons of Camelot have to be full? It's the darkages for fucks sake, Camelot couldn't survive without executing a few assholes every day or they'd choke on the usual burdens of maintaining a polite civilization.
Then there's old people and orphans.
Merlin said that he was going to do it to save Arthur.
It's the noble and honourable thing to do.
The Dungeons of Camelot have to be full? It's the darkages for fucks sake, Camelot couldn't survive without executing a few assholes every day or they'd choke on the usual burdens of maintaining a polite civilization.
Then there's old people and orphans.
Probably because the kids are being idiots and anyone would do. Anyone could sub for Merlin and if Merlin is too much of a plonker to note that, be it on his head.
There will be a battle on the way, and they'll probably kill a few dozen baddies midway to the rift they could just as easily half till they arrive at that magic door.
There will be a battle on the way, and they'll probably kill a few dozen baddies midway to the rift they could just as easily half till they arrive at that magic door.
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Well I found the second episode a bit thin really. A lot of wandering about to no great end. Merlin's dying, er no he's not (and no real explanation to Arthur and co when Merlin and Lancelot returned.) I also think they overdid the 'thrown back by magic' effect, seemed a bit repetitive.
The ending though...well maybe it was obvious given what we'd seen but I was still shocked to see Lancelot enter the veil. That was truly a blimey moment.
Slightly worried that the best bit of the episode was the amusing exchange between Arthur and Merlin.
"I'm only a servant."
"Good servants are hard to find."
"I'm not that good."
"True."
For god's sake guys just kiss already!
The ending though...well maybe it was obvious given what we'd seen but I was still shocked to see Lancelot enter the veil. That was truly a blimey moment.
Slightly worried that the best bit of the episode was the amusing exchange between Arthur and Merlin.
"I'm only a servant."
"Good servants are hard to find."
"I'm not that good."
"True."
For god's sake guys just kiss already!
Yeah, it's pretty obvious neither Merlin or Arthur were going to die. I would have preferred sussing out the evil uncle earlier and dropping him in perhaps during a fight. Or even Morgana realizing that this was causing distruction she doesn't want, since she does want to rule Camelot and sacrificing her flunky and retrenching her plans.Well I found the second episode a bit thin really. A lot of wandering about to no great end. Merlin's dying, er no he's not (and no real explanation to Arthur and co when Merlin and Lancelot returned.) I also think they overdid the 'thrown back by magic' effect, seemed a bit repetitive.
The ending though...well maybe it was obvious given what we'd seen but I was still shocked to see Lancelot enter the veil. That was truly a blimey moment.
Slightly worried that the best bit of the episode was the amusing exchange between Arthur and Merlin.
"I'm only a servant."
"Good servants are hard to find."
"I'm not that good."
"True."
For god's sake guys just kiss already!
Well I found the second episode a bit thin really. A lot of wandering about to no great end. Merlin's dying, er no he's not (and no real explanation to Arthur and co when Merlin and Lancelot returned.) I also think they overdid the 'thrown back by magic' effect, seemed a bit repetitive.
The ending though...well maybe it was obvious given what we'd seen but I was still shocked to see Lancelot enter the veil. That was truly a blimey moment.
Slightly worried that the best bit of the episode was the amusing exchange between Arthur and Merlin.
"I'm only a servant."
"Good servants are hard to find."
"I'm not that good."
"True."
For god's sake guys just kiss already!
Aren't the best bits usually the exchanges between Merlin and Arthur anyway?
Well I found the second episode a bit thin really. A lot of wandering about to no great end. Merlin's dying, er no he's not (and no real explanation to Arthur and co when Merlin and Lancelot returned.) I also think they overdid the 'thrown back by magic' effect, seemed a bit repetitive.
The ending though...well maybe it was obvious given what we'd seen but I was still shocked to see Lancelot enter the veil. That was truly a blimey moment.
Slightly worried that the best bit of the episode was the amusing exchange between Arthur and Merlin.
"I'm only a servant."
"Good servants are hard to find."
"I'm not that good."
"True."
For god's sake guys just kiss already!
Aren't the best bits usually the exchanges between Merlin and Arthur anyway?
This is true
Gods.
Did you see the "Next Week on Merlin"?
So the old guy disguise is "Emress" which he will be transforming into half the episode to save the day like Clark Kent into Superman, if the parallelallity between the two concepts had breeched and ruptured into one enough already!
It's more like Captain Marvel than Superman if you consider the age thing. Captain marvel ( An 8 year boy old transformed into a middle agedish (Greek) God by a magic lightning bolt to save the world) was hilariously told to baby sit and mentor Young Justice last week, a pack of teen sidekicks so irresponsible that only an 8 year can keep them in check.
if Merlin is going to persist in this illusion, this new personality, it totally gives him a new way to relate with Arthur, and horrible Morganna since in all likelihood she's going to end up sleeping with him in his old man makeup rather then him as a boy.
It'll be the reverse of that scene from Misfits were the fit 20 something girl mid coitus on top of Nathan, turned out to be an 80 year old polymorph who lost her concentration during an orgasm shifted back to her regular geriatric state while he was still inside her.
It'd be like agreeing to sleep with Hugh Heffner and then when he's finished he magically turned into Aston Kutcher!
Poor Morganna.
"you could have dropped the glamour BEFORE you started, SURELY??!!"
Did you see the "Next Week on Merlin"?
So the old guy disguise is "Emress" which he will be transforming into half the episode to save the day like Clark Kent into Superman, if the parallelallity between the two concepts had breeched and ruptured into one enough already!
It's more like Captain Marvel than Superman if you consider the age thing. Captain marvel ( An 8 year boy old transformed into a middle agedish (Greek) God by a magic lightning bolt to save the world) was hilariously told to baby sit and mentor Young Justice last week, a pack of teen sidekicks so irresponsible that only an 8 year can keep them in check.
if Merlin is going to persist in this illusion, this new personality, it totally gives him a new way to relate with Arthur, and horrible Morganna since in all likelihood she's going to end up sleeping with him in his old man makeup rather then him as a boy.
It'll be the reverse of that scene from Misfits were the fit 20 something girl mid coitus on top of Nathan, turned out to be an 80 year old polymorph who lost her concentration during an orgasm shifted back to her regular geriatric state while he was still inside her.
It'd be like agreeing to sleep with Hugh Heffner and then when he's finished he magically turned into Aston Kutcher!
Poor Morganna.
"you could have dropped the glamour BEFORE you started, SURELY??!!"
It could be why they have Morgana and that Cailich character mention Emrys as her destiny and her doom. Merlin playing the two parts covering each aspect in some fashion. Maybe next episode Uther can be revealed as Morgan and Melin's kid in some time sliding River Song sort of way?
Old Emrys has the freedom to say things to her that Merlin couldn't (aside from being 'disguised - ha!'). Questioning her motives and the results of her selfishness for a start. I rather like the idea of her having a Jiminy Cricket popping up with irritating frequency.
He did a very bad thing last season. And the guards chased him.
Despite on principle being a magic user, old Emrys is wanted.
He's a villain.
And so is she.
If Morganna thinks she can fight destiny, he would make a powerful ally, especially if he is the only thing standing between her and the throne.
Despite on principle being a magic user, old Emrys is wanted.
He's a villain.
And so is she.
If Morganna thinks she can fight destiny, he would make a powerful ally, especially if he is the only thing standing between her and the throne.
My rightful place as a bastard child who wants to kill her brother to attain the throne!
Who is older?
First born vs Legitimacy?
If Arthur is first born and Legitimate... Although there was an episode once where they kind of said that Uthur seized Camelot when he was young, rather than his pa gave it to him or he paid for it's construction.
That means that this kingdom was ruled by assholes as recently as 30 years ago maybe?
Unless Uthur married into Job of King?
The wife was a princess of Camelot?
Fuckballs.
Evil Uncle Argavaine might have a monster of a motive if he was passed over for King by his father to give some outlander thug his throne, He might have even considered that pops "sold" his sister to Uthur when you consider the entire Dowry thing. NO? Gift with Purchase?
First born vs Legitimacy?
If Arthur is first born and Legitimate... Although there was an episode once where they kind of said that Uthur seized Camelot when he was young, rather than his pa gave it to him or he paid for it's construction.
That means that this kingdom was ruled by assholes as recently as 30 years ago maybe?
Unless Uthur married into Job of King?
The wife was a princess of Camelot?
Fuckballs.
Evil Uncle Argavaine might have a monster of a motive if he was passed over for King by his father to give some outlander thug his throne, He might have even considered that pops "sold" his sister to Uthur when you consider the entire Dowry thing. NO? Gift with Purchase?
That's more like it. I want it and I"m going to have it.
Past this inner circle we obsess on, do the common people really care who sits on the throne?
If she only has to kill say, 12 people until the other million citizens Camelot collects taxes from fall into line, would the dregs notice any difference? Would they care? What's the difference?
In Americans terms, remember (not literally) prohibition? Don't you think that the people would welcome the return of being able to use magic openly? Not trolls and fairies, but regular ordinary people who had little spells (Lighting a fire, mending fabric, luck, curing sickness. Little stuff.) that did little things, who have been living under the threat of death for partaking with their innocent victimless habit just like all the good decent folkes in the '20s taking a nip of brandy after dinner prepared for the Untouchables to kick down their door in maybe.
What about the constant invasions by the undead and dragons? A strong magic user on the throne could deal with that in seconds rather than half the army is charbroiled and the surrounding farms are sacked... Especially if they knew the worst of it in the past was inspired by her hand, that if Morganna was in charge they would be mercilessly invaded half as much as they are used to, unless Arthur a punk on Horse back thinks he's just as good a Guerilla terrorist freedom fighter as his sister that if he makes life annoying enough for the serfs that they'll give his throne back?
Punk on horseback vs Necromancer?
Pull the other one.
All the Knights would be prisoned or executed which would mean that their lands would be gifted and divided between her allies as reward for loyalty. Hells, the tennant farmers might just be given their homes for the hell of it.
Laws would be changed to make it easier for bastards and women. Considering how she is the law, it's a fair cop to say that "rape" will be down since the "she was asking for it" defence would hardly fly so well as it did with Uthur.
Once Morgana is Queen, she'll be forced into a political alliance/marriage and then she'll be off making making babies, and who has the time to raise the dead when the little rat bastard starts teething? (Have you read Obelix and Co?)
Giving her exactly what she wants will doom her and make no difference to the plebs and prols.
If this was Rome, or Starwars, we'd suggest a marriage between Morganna and Arthur to just merge their ownership rights, which is something she should have considered doing. Kill her father, marry her brother and then kill her brother. She probably wouldn't have had to have had sex with Arthur more than half a dozen times while waiting for the poison to take, but it would have been a sure route to the throne.
Here's the clincher.
Morganna can take of the surrounding kingdoms and unite all of Briton under Camelot without have to raise an army from Camelots idiot teenagers. meanwhile Arthur would have to put a sword in the hand of everyone over the age of 8 just to hold the borders because no one trusts any one that freaking blonde.
If she only has to kill say, 12 people until the other million citizens Camelot collects taxes from fall into line, would the dregs notice any difference? Would they care? What's the difference?
In Americans terms, remember (not literally) prohibition? Don't you think that the people would welcome the return of being able to use magic openly? Not trolls and fairies, but regular ordinary people who had little spells (Lighting a fire, mending fabric, luck, curing sickness. Little stuff.) that did little things, who have been living under the threat of death for partaking with their innocent victimless habit just like all the good decent folkes in the '20s taking a nip of brandy after dinner prepared for the Untouchables to kick down their door in maybe.
What about the constant invasions by the undead and dragons? A strong magic user on the throne could deal with that in seconds rather than half the army is charbroiled and the surrounding farms are sacked... Especially if they knew the worst of it in the past was inspired by her hand, that if Morganna was in charge they would be mercilessly invaded half as much as they are used to, unless Arthur a punk on Horse back thinks he's just as good a Guerilla terrorist freedom fighter as his sister that if he makes life annoying enough for the serfs that they'll give his throne back?
Punk on horseback vs Necromancer?
Pull the other one.
All the Knights would be prisoned or executed which would mean that their lands would be gifted and divided between her allies as reward for loyalty. Hells, the tennant farmers might just be given their homes for the hell of it.
Laws would be changed to make it easier for bastards and women. Considering how she is the law, it's a fair cop to say that "rape" will be down since the "she was asking for it" defence would hardly fly so well as it did with Uthur.
Once Morgana is Queen, she'll be forced into a political alliance/marriage and then she'll be off making making babies, and who has the time to raise the dead when the little rat bastard starts teething? (Have you read Obelix and Co?)
Giving her exactly what she wants will doom her and make no difference to the plebs and prols.
If this was Rome, or Starwars, we'd suggest a marriage between Morganna and Arthur to just merge their ownership rights, which is something she should have considered doing. Kill her father, marry her brother and then kill her brother. She probably wouldn't have had to have had sex with Arthur more than half a dozen times while waiting for the poison to take, but it would have been a sure route to the throne.
Here's the clincher.
Morganna can take of the surrounding kingdoms and unite all of Briton under Camelot without have to raise an army from Camelots idiot teenagers. meanwhile Arthur would have to put a sword in the hand of everyone over the age of 8 just to hold the borders because no one trusts any one that freaking blonde.
i actually said 'holy shit!' when Lancelot stepped into the vail. viel. the black swirly special effect thing.
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