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LOL at the idea of a Tegra pushing 60fps at 1080p.

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Also,
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-fast-rmx-showcases-switches-power-over-wii-u

In docked mode, the game jumps regularly between 900p and 1080p - or even lower in very select circumstances - while portable mode drops the resolution ceiling to 720p where minor drops in pixel-count can also occur, mostly in pre-race fly-bys. From what we understand, there is a small issue with the current firmware on Switch which causes a slight drain on GPU resources - once corrected, we're told that Fast RMX should sustain a full 1080p in docked mode.

All of this operates at a smooth 60 frames per second whether docked or while gaming on the go. Across hours of play, Fast RMX delivered a rock-solid level of performance throughout in single-player mode. Occasional single frame drops appear from time to time but are virtual undetectable by eye. The Wii U version comes close to matching this as well but certain tracks exhibit minor performance dips into the 50s - something that has been eliminated on Switch.
 
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Then why are the people actually playing it now only getting 30 at best?

I mean it would be nice it were just firmware and it improved, but framerate, stuttering and general fuckery of the smoothness is a constant complaint right now by players, not paid revewiers who strangely never post any footage to prove it.
 
Then why are the people actually playing it now only getting 30 at best?

What? Mario Kart isn't out yet but considering they got 60 fps on the Wii U they're easily going to hit that on the Switch, and I haven't seen anyone complain about the frame rate in Fast RMX. In fact, Digital Foundry (the folks behind the Eurogamer article I posted) has a video showing the performance in several different situations:

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If you're talking about Zelda, I suppose the difference in framerate and resolution there is the trade-off when rendering a large open-world game.

I was merely responding to Timby's amusing comment about "a Tegra pushing 60fps at 1080p" when it's already been demonstrated to be able to do just that.
 
Well you know, I figured if they were going to start charging for it they might have actually put in some effort to make it worth it.

:guffaw:I know you are a Nintendo fanboy to extreme levels, but come on, it's Nintendo, they are selling a fucking piece of useless plastic for $60. They will milk and dime you because they know you love them. They will fuck you hard without lube because they know they can. They are Nintendo.
 
They will fuck you hard without lube because they know they can. They are Nintendo.

TBF all the big 3 will try to screw you with your pants on but Sony & Microsoft will eventually tuck there tails in-between their legs and Nintendo will just be stubborn bastards :lol:
 
:guffaw:I know you are a Nintendo fanboy to extreme levels, but come on, it's Nintendo, they are selling a fucking piece of useless plastic for $60. They will milk and dime you because they know you love them. They will fuck you hard without lube because they know they can. They are Nintendo.

Excuse me for being optimistic about something I care about.
 
Excuse me for being optimistic about something I care about.

There is a difference between optimistic and being blindly delusional.

"Hmmm... These Amiibo figures are pointless, let's increase the price $4 because our fanbase doesn't care!" - Nintendo
 
I am curious. Prior to the Switch presentation you seemed open to the idea of the system. What changed your mind exactly?
 
Excuse me for being optimistic about something I care about.

I can kind of relate, but at the end of the day, Nintendo is just a company and they only care about your loyalty to the extent it opens your wallet.

I'm still not convinced anyone interested in buying a Nintendo product gives a flying fuck about frame rates, though. You don't want noticeable stuttering, obviously, but 30fps is "good enough" for the vast majority of people.

:guffaw:I know you are a Nintendo fanboy to extreme levels, but come on, it's Nintendo, they are selling a fucking piece of useless plastic for $60. They will milk and dime you because they know you love them. They will fuck you hard without lube because they know they can. They are Nintendo.

I suspect it won't be too long before somebody comes up with a super cheap knockoff dock (WITH PADDING!), since based on the teardowns there is really nothing special in them whatsoever, and they are mostly empty plastic.
 
I suspect it won't be too long before somebody comes up with a super cheap knockoff dock (WITH PADDING!), since based on the teardowns there is really nothing special in them whatsoever, and they are mostly empty plastic.

Kind of like what I said earlier in the thread ;)

But yes, I really think 3rd-party accessory makers will jump at the chance to build a better dock. They'd almost be stupid not to. There's a chance to make something that's inherently a better overall design than what Nintendo put out, and what would be killer is if they price it lower or at parity to Nintendo's. In a couple of months, I wouldn't be surprised to see if Logitech has something on the market.
 
The Tegra X1 line using the Maxwell architecture, upon which the Switch is based, is basically Nvidia's effort to take a high-powered GeForce GPU and bake it into an SoC that can be used in mobile devices. Between that core part of the hardware and the 4GB of RAM (lol) that the Switch has ... yeah, no, it's never going to push 1080p/60 on a consistent basis unless you're playing fucking Tetris or something.

It's becoming more and more evident that the Switch was originally developed as a 3DS successor (the industrial design alone, like the placement of ports, screams this), and then the Wii U faceplanted and people in Kyoto said, "Shit. Can we make this into a home console, too?"

Is it even any more powerful than the Wii U, then?
 
Is it even any more powerful than the Wii U, then?

Absolutely. The Wii U's hardware was a really bizarre kludge of disparate pieces (I think the Espresso CPU was a weird fork of IBM's Power line, and they married it to an oddly under-powered AMD GPU).
 
I am curious. Prior to the Switch presentation you seemed open to the idea of the system. What changed your mind exactly?

The idea of the system is still awesome as hell. The idea of the system isn't the problem, Nintendo is Nintendo and that's the problem.

They are still over charging for the system / games / junk. The system's battery of three hours for Zelda (The only real game out for the system.). They still care more about the waving your hands around in games than actual games. And above all, they still don't have the games. If this is like the 3DS where Nintendo lowers the price of the system and starts making games, then great. But they never did that for the Wii U.

So what happened? Nintendo hasn't learned shit. When they first showed the system off in the trailer it was awesome. Then they showed it off at that horrible event in January and their stock went down to a several month low. Nintendo is nothing but a disappointment. They didn't show the games, they didn't even show off the system that much, they just showed they will fuck with Nintendo fans and expect them to pay anyways. Hell Nintendo is like USA democrats, won't do anything to get your votes / money, just expects you to follow them blindly because they are better than the other chooses.

If in 2018 games start showing up for the Switch and the system is lowered in price by at least $50 then awesome. Just everything Nintendo has shown and done this year has been a disaster like the Wii U. Don't launch a system just because you need to in order to help your financial year ending in two weeks. Launch the system when you have the games and the issues worked out, more so when your last system only failed because of no press or ads and even fewer games.
 
I don't know much about Nintendo's handhelds. I have a Gameboy Advance and DS somewhere but they never got much use. I am always amazed that they always power up no matter how long they've sat neglected. Anyway, my question is how feasible would it have been to have easily replaced battery packs for the Switch? Seems one way to work through that situation.

I am curious to see how much they use the split controllers and motion features in the future. I'm not sure if those will be redundant or useful but it seems it might have taken away from a tighter focus. After the Wii and WIi U, I wanted to see more back to the basics and less focus on the gimmicks. The home/portable switching capability seemed enough. Then again, maybe things like Snipperclips and 1-2 Switch could be big for the right audience.
 
When they first showed the system off in the trailer it was awesome.

Even then, I was very skeptical of them being to pull it off. Because if you think about it, if Nintendo wasn't capable of the one thing it set out to do very well with the Wii U, they now had to have a console that could be good at being a hybrid of two things. Well, I already know I'm not the target demographic, but I couldn't see people doing the things in the video either. Just seemed very superficial to me.
 
I am curious to see how much they use the split controllers and motion features in the future. I'm not sure if those will be redundant or useful but it seems it might have taken away from a tighter focus. After the Wii and WIi U, I wanted to see more back to the basics and less focus on the gimmicks. The home/portable switching capability seemed enough. Then again, maybe things like Snipperclips and 1-2 Switch could be big for the right audience.

The battery issue isn't even a deal breaker for me, because it's not Nintendo's fault the battery sucks. There are countless articles on why we have issues with advancing batteries.

I don't even consider the motion controls a gimmick, it's just not needed as much as Nintendo has shown it off. It's like the first DS games that relied on the touch screen too much. If it adds to the game then cool, but it seems like Nintendo makes mini games just as an excuse for

I appreciate that you took the time to respond to me. Thank you :)

Of course. I think you are a crazy Nintendo fan, but there are worse things to be loyal to, like meth. :) I'm rotting for Nintendo, but they have been a letdown in consoles for years and years and years now.
 
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