Niners Unite...around Babylon 5! - The Lost Threads

[od0_ital]

^

Ya know, even I have seen 'War Without End, Parts One & Two'.

What's your excuse?

 

[PKTrekGirl]

^ Perhaps you might recall that you aren't the only B5 newbie currently posting in this thread.

And it's just beyond my capabilities to allow a newbie to be spoiled on THAT particular plot point in MY forum.

Ya got a problem with that?

 

[od0_ital]

^

Oh, right...that other n00b. Almost forgot.

Good thinkin'.

 

[Stone_Cold_Sisko]

od0_ital said:
Well, I've watched Babylon 5: In the Beginning...and to me, it suffers from the same thing most prequels suffer from, and that's makin' the universe so small.

G'Kar, Franklin & Sheridan knew each other before all three wound up on B5.

Delenn saw Sheridan before he was ever on B5, even though Sinclair thought he was the first human the Minbari ever met.

If the Minbari wanted to know more about humanity, why weren't Sheridan & Franklin kept as prisoners?

Mollari is the reason why G'Kar, Sheridan & Franklin wound up gettin' caught by the Minbari in the first place, what the hell?

Guess its a good thing they didn't hold the triluminary up against Franklin or Sheridan, if they couldn't make it glow, Sinclair would have been screwed later.

And, if that weren't enough, Mollari tells the story of all this the day he dies. So, where was G'Kar while Mollari told his story? Its already shown he was there, in the throne room an hour later.

I agree completely. While ItB is generally pretty good, it's all very contrived and strained how so many of our principles are involved in it and intersect. Feels very artificial and "it's a Babylon 5 movie so we need our Babylon 5 cast in it". The only way to really reconcile it is to say Londo was tellin' some tall tales, mixing in facts he knew about the war with his friends from B5.

 

[Neroon]

od0_ital said:
Well, I've watched Babylon 5: In the Beginning...and to me, it suffers from the same thing most prequels suffer from, and that's makin' the universe so small.

Understandable. For my part, some of these things seemed a mite too coincidental. but then they don't contradict anything afterwards, so it's all good to me.

Delenn saw Sheridan before he was ever on B5, even though Sinclair thought he was the first human the Minbari ever met.

Remember that the Minbari never tell anyone the whole truth.

If the Minbari wanted to know more about humanity, why weren't Sheridan & Franklin kept as prisoners?

That was part of the cessation for the war, I suppose.

Mollari is the reason why G'Kar, Sheridan & Franklin wound up gettin' caught by the Minbari in the first place, what the hell?

Guess its a good thing they didn't hold the triluminary up against Franklin or Sheridan, if they couldn't make it glow, Sinclair would have been screwed later.

And, if that weren't enough, Mollari tells the story of all this the day he dies. So, where was G'Kar while Mollari told his story? Its already shown he was there, in the throne room an hour later.

Don't forget that essentially this is all told from Mollari's perspective, even in "The Gathering". You know... "I was there at the dawn of the Third Age of Mankind"....

 

[Unicron]

PKTrekGirl said:
^ Unicron - I love ya to bits...but watch the spoilers - especially ones about super-cool plot points like that. I know we have at least one current poster in this thread who isn't there yet.

Sorry...but I edited your post.

No worries. My brain was tired when I wrote my post, after a long day of work.

 

[Neroon]

Normally, they aren't real spoilers since the shows have long been out on DVD. However, it's the uniqueness of threads like this which make us careful about those kinds of plot points.

 

[PKTrekGirl]

^ Yes. It's sort of an unwritten rule in this forum that when you are posting in threads aimed at newbies, to stay aware of where the newbie posters are in the show (and this goes for this thread as well as DS9-related newbie threads) so as to not spoil them.

Shows like DS9 and B5, because they are arc-driven and not just a bunch of stand-alones, are really sensitive to spoilers. So Niners are kinda used to 'the drill' on that point.

No harm done - and we are all buds in here, so no one gets bent if I edit their posts for this sort of thing. We tend to operate under the premise that we are all on the same team 'round here. Shoot...they've even caught me slipping up once or twice, and told me to edit my own post! And they were right!

 

[Phily B]

Wait, I just read Doctor Franklin is dead in real life.

 

[Lindley]

Yes, as of a few years ago. G'Kar and Zathras, too.

They left one heck of an impact, though.

 

[Orac Zen]

The list of people associated in some way with B5 who are already deceased is already quite significant. It's sad, but at least their work is around and still being discovered and enjoyed.

 

[od0_ital]

And, on the bright side, Claudia Christian is still around & makin' appearances at SciFi cons. She even has a binder of non-family friendly photos she'll sign.

Too bad I 1) had my nephew with me when I was at a con with her as a guest and 2) wasn't a fan of Babylon 5 a year ago.

 

[Neroon]

If you ever get a chance, be sure to check out the dedication videos to Richard and Andreas out on ZTeam Productions.

That is their B5 related page, and the dedications are linked under the pictures you see of each. I guess there wasn't quite enough material to warrant making one for Tim.

 

[Jan]

Sadly, a number of B5 guest actors and semi-regulars (not to mention behind-the-camera folks) have passed on. A nice page memorializing some of them is here. I've also recently heard that Louis Turenne (Draal #1/Brother Theo) has passed away but I haven't verified that.

Jan

 

[Harvey]

Wikipedia says he died in January, but there are no sources. He was too ill to wear the Draal make-up for a second appearance, so it wouldn't surprise me if he passed on. Very sad, though. I imagine he was a very sweet man.

 

[Jan]

Another actor who isn't on that site is Johnny Sekka who played Dr. Kyle in 'The Gathering'. He died about a year ago.

Jan

 

[od0_ital]

Well, I took a brief break after watchin' Babylon 5: In the Beginning & Thirdspace, and watched NewsRadio - The Complete Fourth Season.

And now, I've cracked open Babylon 5: The Complete Fifth Season - The Wheel of Fire.

With only a few errands to run tomorrow (details at LiveJournal), and nothin' to do on Sunday, I figure I can finish the season in a couple of days, if its as good as the fourth season.

 

[Kegek]

With only a few errands to run tomorrow (details at LiveJournal), and nothin' to do on Sunday, I figure I can finish the season in a couple of days, if its as good as the fourth season.

Well, maybe it'll take a little longer than that...

 

[Lindley]

It's not.

But it's okay if you can make it to "The Ragged Edge".

 

[od0_ital]

Okay, I already don't like the openin' title sequence for this season.

I'll be skippin' over that for the rest of the episodes.