Hopefully this new series has aliens, Asians and Asian aliens galore!
It also means the ratio between male and females on-board the ship should be approximately 1:1.
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Hopefully this new series has aliens, Asians and Asian aliens galore!
It also means the ratio between male and females on-board the ship should be approximately 1:1.
Ah, that's where you are wrong. It did get an award for it's diversity.
Individually lots of the actors were nominated for awards by diversity organizations
Who cares? I only really care if the show is entertaining. Except for obviously the premier episode, I'm not going to watch Star Trek just because it's Star Trek, or it's diverse, or whatever. If it's not entertaining to me, I won't watch regardless of the composition of the crew.
And if it IS entertaining, I'll watch it regardless of the composition of the crew.
And if it IS entertaining, I'll watch it regardless of the composition of the crew.
I think I will trust Martin Luther King on this rather than you.
Except for all those other shows with non whites and non Americans in their casts. Hogan's Heroes, Mission Impossible, McHale's Navy, I Spy, Julia, The Mod Squad, Daktari, Tarzan, High Chaparral, Ironside, Mannix, Land of the Giants...
Link to that quote?
OTOH, the main cast was two thirds Jewish.
*In Cinemasins Voice* That's racist. *ding*
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So, no quotes from Dr. King, just Nichelle`s ever evolving story.
Are you implying she's lying?
No, I've watched the story evolve over the decades from "what would Dr King do?" to "a phone call from Dr. King." to "a face to face with Dr. KIng". Stories often grow in the telling. So I don't think of it as a lie. I would like nothing more than for Dr. King to be a Trek fan, that would be cool beyond belief. But nothing I've read by Dr. King hiumself seems to indicate this was true. And as I pointed out, there are much better examples of African-Americans in non stereotypical roles than Uhura on Star Trek. Roles that predate Star Trek and are co-starring parts. Roles in shows much more successfull than Star Trek.
Y'all never get tired of digging up this same tired argument, do you?
Group 1: (Sensitive, Politically-Correct, social justice warriors) "There should be a Tongan, a Native-American, someone from Borat's village, a Kalahari BushPERSON, and a member of ISIS who is also, preferably, a homosexual. If we could also have someone with Tourette's syndrome and another crewmwnber who chronically soils themselves...that would be a true repesentation of the various under-represented groups that Star Trek has the RESPONSIBILITY to portray."
Group 2: (People who like to pretend there's no bias in Hollywood or in society in general): "We really don't need all this diversity stuff forced upon us. Let's just see how things pan out. I like Asians and stuff...I guess, so I'm cool with diversity right? Star Trek is totally diverse anyway...I mean, c'mon Geordi was a black guy, am I right?? What's the big deal anyway? Why are we suddenly against WHITE PEOPLE??"
Everyone Else: (people who don't give a $hit one way or another) "Can we please just have well-written and well-acted characters? I'll buy just about anything if it's well done. And, I'd really do just about anything to stop this same tired, bottomless debate resurrected over and over and over and over again"
Can we just agree that this sums everything up and call it a day?
Group 1: (Sensitive, Politically-Correct, social justice warriors) "There should be a Tongan, a Native-American, someone from Borat's village, a Kalahari BushPERSON, and a member of ISIS who is also, preferably, a homosexual. If we could also have someone with Tourette's syndrome and another crewmwnber who chronically soils themselves...that would be a true repesentation of the various under-represented groups that Star Trek has the RESPONSIBILITY to portray."
Group 2: (People who like to pretend there's no bias in Hollywood or in society in general): "We really don't need all this diversity stuff forced upon us. Let's just see how things pan out. I like Asians and stuff...I guess, so I'm cool with diversity right? Star Trek is totally diverse anyway...I mean, c'mon Geordi was a black guy, am I right?? What's the big deal anyway? Why are we suddenly against WHITE PEOPLE??"
Everyone Else: (people who don't give a $hit one way or another) "Can we please just have well-written and well-acted characters? I'll buy just about anything if it's well done. And, I'd really do just about anything to stop this same tired, bottomless debate resurrected over and over and over and over again"
Can we just agree that this sums everything up and call it a day?
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Agreed with you Vger23 1000%. However, we are a community that will argue over which feline actor portrayed Data's cat in which episode. Which is a good reason why Hollywood producers should NOT be listening to the Trek community. Just give me good stories set in the Star Trek universe that are not trying so hard to BE Star Trek. We already know what Star Trek is about, we don't need to be reminded and hit in the face with it every single damn episode. Some of the best shows (from any of the series) had nothing to do with the Star Trek universe, but simply the characters involved in the story.
Agreed with you Vger23 1000%. However, we are a community that will argue over which feline actor portrayed Data's cat in which episode. Which is a good reason why Hollywood producers should NOT be listening to the Trek community. Just give me good stories set in the Star Trek universe that are not trying so hard to BE Star Trek. We already know what Star Trek is about, we don't need to be reminded and hit in the face with it every single damn episode. Some of the best shows (from any of the series) had nothing to do with the Star Trek universe, but simply the characters involved in the story.
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Your "Everyone else" group reads pretty indistinguishably from Group 2. It's remarkable how many "just hire good people" casts end up remarkably lacking in diversity. I love Firefly, but for an American/Chinese universe it has a distinct lack of Chinese people. Asians are also missing from other Whedonverse properties or are stereotypes when they do appear. The unconscious bias of those making the new Trek show can be addressed perfectly well without becoming "PC social justice warriors" demanding a gay Horta captain. I would just appreciate a bit of deliberate thought on the issue when drawing up the new crew, who, being fictional and all, should be pretty easy to make diverse.
everyone shut up and post your fan cast for a gay horta captain
If a gay Horta went to a gay Horta bar, would he order acid on his rocks?
I would like to see different mentalities and neurological types portrayed in a positive way... i.e. things that are currently pathologized, such as autism spectrum conditions.
There is a slowly growing concept of neurodiversity in recent years, but it still does not have the mainstream acceptance or even the publicity of other forms of diversity. And it seems that most times when somebody of this kind of minority is portrayed in popular media, the basic idea is that there is something "wrong" with the character and not just "different."
Kor
There is a slowly growing concept of neurodiversity in recent years, but it still does not have the mainstream acceptance or even the publicity of other forms of diversity. And it seems that most times when somebody of this kind of minority is portrayed in popular media, the basic idea is that there is something "wrong" with the character and not just "different."
Kor
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