Spoilers New York Comic-Con Season 4 Trailer
- Thread starter Tuskin38
- Start date
A compact object with an accretion disk and strong gravitational lensing will look like this. They're just using the look of a black hole for a "gravitational anomaly".
I wonder if this is a gravitational anomaly that "breaks time" and brings us into Picard S2....
It's not like maverick Captains are unheard of in Trek. Kirk and Sisko were mavericks and both Picard and Janeway could be mavericks in there own way. I think Burnham's journey this season is going to be about finding her own balance between the two, which I think the trailer hints at by featuring her dressing down by the Federation President.
I mean last season she flat out disobeyed an order from Saru and he's like, "I even ASKED politely and you just ignored me."
I guess I was hoping they'd go somewhere different.
If you mean the scene from Scavengers it's interesting because it shows Saru being a stickler for the rules and not considering the opportunities for intel etc or considering meeting Burnham halfway and going to Vance. At the same time it also shows how Burnham's maverickness, while gettign the job done, can be an absolute liability and impact her relationships negatively.
I think it would be less realistic, to see Burnham not go through some sort of transitional phase of her Captaincy. Sisko hit the ground running when he was promoted and it's implied that Kirk and Picard were similar. But then you have the likes of Janeway who mentions being anxious when receiving her first command and later by Tuvok as self-flagellating, and also Vance who apparently never listened to anyone and thought he knew everything and made bad calls as a result. That 'green phase' and it's something we've never seen before but only heard about so I'm interested if they decide to explore that.
Season 5's villain whose master plan puts the fate of the known universe in jeopardy will be... Badgey! With seven centuries worth of upgrades.
Sure broadly speaking you can describe every Klingon from Motion Picture through the JJverse as having darker skin tones and some form of cranial ridges. But the specific look of each production is different in how they portray that. They don't match, and you can read articles about some of the makeup designers seeing what they think works and what they think doesn't and why they made the choices they made.
Motion Picture More pronounced peaked center ridge. Search, less pronounced center ridge more side ridge. Final Frontier, significantly decreased ridges, little brow ridge. Undiscovered Country less pronounced ridges then Trek 1 or III, more pronounced then V, but like 5 little brow ridge.
Westmore heavily pronounced ridges, with more complexity, easily the most pronounced brow ridges, even the half Klingon characters have more pronounced brow ridges than previous films. This change was heavily impacted on his change in Micheal Dorn's makeup between season 1 and 2 and its reflected throughout the Klingons that follow. JJ Trek back to less pronounced ridges, less pronounced brow ridges, and additional horizontal tiny ridges going across the foreheads, as well as far deeper and going back to the back back head ridges (in comparison to the only previous character that was bald (who did have minor ridged lines but not doing down through the neck.
Again there is a distinct look to most of the various productions of what Klingon makeup looks like.
And a designer look generally translates through all their Klingons. Though for example The Klingon Ambassadors style does come close to matching his appearance in Voyage Home a different designer creation. I would assume since Westmore's work was for tv production, the explains why his cranial pieces are much deeper. I assume to make it easier for various actors hair, and to get done in a shorter production time table.
The only time that I notice such differences, like the re-design of the Ferengi, is when the story does not engage me and I am looking for something, anything, to engage my intelligence and my emotions. Otherwise, I go with the flow and enjoy what is there.
Well...I'm underwhelmed. I really think the writers of Disco are losing the plot and are rinsing and repeating the previous season storylines but altering them in such a way to be different enough. I WANT to be excited, but what I saw from this and the other trailer, I really am losing interest. Can they please at least get Ira Stephen Behr or RDM to do a season of writing?! Get us out of this rut of needing to save the galaxy ONCE AGAIN from a existential threat every season. Not even DS9 was this crazy about repeating stories like this.
except Season 1 was about the Klingon War, and Season 3 was about finding the origin of the Burn… neither seasons were about saving the galaxy…
With the Ferengi "redesign" - it looks to me like the key features are retained in more or less the same look as has previously been seen.
Difference to me here is that the Ferengi looks a bit "craggier" for lack of a better word. It could simply be an age thing as Moogie and Zek both had that additional cragginess.
Other differences could simply be battle scars or, as others have said, effects of not being 100% Ferengi.
Either way, it isn't going to affect my enjoyment if there are some aesthetic changes.
Difference to me here is that the Ferengi looks a bit "craggier" for lack of a better word. It could simply be an age thing as Moogie and Zek both had that additional cragginess.
Other differences could simply be battle scars or, as others have said, effects of not being 100% Ferengi.
Either way, it isn't going to affect my enjoyment if there are some aesthetic changes.
I appreciate Discovery for the spectacle, never has Trek looked so visually lush. I’m worried that after going to all the trouble of setting up this new world, it’s going to play second fiddle to the ‘big bad’ again, but its early days. I’d like to see more of the growing pains of bringing a Federation back together – if it’s even possible.
I also hope the rest of the bridge crew play a more integral and consistent part of the story. We’re at the start of the fourth season and I still know some of them as ‘Comms Guy’, ‘Tactical Lad’ and household favourite ‘Woman who was formerly a robot, but the makeup didn’t agree with her so they brought her back as regular human’, which for the latter is probably more backstory than the other two combined.
When I saw the Ferengi I assumed they were mixed heritage. From a production standpoint I could imagine them wanting to make this world as strange and new as they can, but they’re also attached to the region of space Trek was established in; so a thousand years of interspecies ‘how you doing?’ is one way of getting that unfamiliarity back into Trek.
I also hope the rest of the bridge crew play a more integral and consistent part of the story. We’re at the start of the fourth season and I still know some of them as ‘Comms Guy’, ‘Tactical Lad’ and household favourite ‘Woman who was formerly a robot, but the makeup didn’t agree with her so they brought her back as regular human’, which for the latter is probably more backstory than the other two combined.
When I saw the Ferengi I assumed they were mixed heritage. From a production standpoint I could imagine them wanting to make this world as strange and new as they can, but they’re also attached to the region of space Trek was established in; so a thousand years of interspecies ‘how you doing?’ is one way of getting that unfamiliarity back into Trek.
It's really not hard to learn the characters names given they are referred to by name all the time. They're secondary characters and have been given about the same amount of backstory as Uhura or Sulu or Chekov got in TOS. At least Discovery has these characters instead of doing what Voyager did and have Ensign Kim suddenly become the tactical officer if Tuvok wasn't around or have Chakotay 'take the conn' when Paris wasn't around, because apparently they didn't have any other pilots.
Once again, season four looks to be visually amazing. But the premise seems too similar to last season, with this large cosmic mystery that the crew must solve. To me they are ignoring the easiest, and for me most interesting story idea, and that's actually rebuilding the Federation. Even though it might become repetitive they could do a season or several with Discovery visiting former Federation worlds and convincing them to return to the fold.l
As much as I like Sonequa Martin-Green and the idea of her as a Trek captain, not sure it works for Burnham the character, and goes against the initial premise of Discovery which would be to focus on a non-captain character. Once again, I think DISCO rushed the story to get her in the chair in the final episode (which still could've worked as a series finale). I do wonder though that if Burnham will still be captain by the end of season. I'm wondering now if she doesn't relinquish the captain's chair back to Saru, with the captaincy not being what she wants after all. If that does happen, it gives Burnham the arc, destiny Captain Georgiou set out for her (as well as Captain Burnham fans), but also could satisfy the people who like the idea of Burnham not being captain too. The best of both worlds (pun intended).
As much as I like Sonequa Martin-Green and the idea of her as a Trek captain, not sure it works for Burnham the character, and goes against the initial premise of Discovery which would be to focus on a non-captain character. Once again, I think DISCO rushed the story to get her in the chair in the final episode (which still could've worked as a series finale). I do wonder though that if Burnham will still be captain by the end of season. I'm wondering now if she doesn't relinquish the captain's chair back to Saru, with the captaincy not being what she wants after all. If that does happen, it gives Burnham the arc, destiny Captain Georgiou set out for her (as well as Captain Burnham fans), but also could satisfy the people who like the idea of Burnham not being captain too. The best of both worlds (pun intended).
Last edited:
I think that is a Ferengi after pausing the clip. Also apparently the Federation President is a mixture of Bajoran, Cardassian and human! 
The trailer looks good, but another galaxy-wide threat that no one has seen before? At least since the last season, or the season before that?
I'm in, if a little skeptical. S3 had a lot of good things in it in spite of resolving the Burn mystery, so we'll see.
The trailer looks good, but another galaxy-wide threat that no one has seen before? At least since the last season, or the season before that?
I'm in, if a little skeptical. S3 had a lot of good things in it in spite of resolving the Burn mystery, so we'll see.
Did the room of aliens all having a meeting together about the anomaly not tip you off that we're getting more Federation stuff? Or the ceremony seemingly showing the Ni'Var rejoining?
Similar threads
- Locked
- Sticky
