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So, are you Team Child or Team Monster with what was under the sheet? ;)
Well if it was a monster, I doubt it would have left just because the Doctor told it to but really, who knows?

I thought the entire point of the episode was that it wasn't a monster. In every single case of something weird and unexplained happening in that episode, the Doctor or someone else did offer a perfectly reasonable, mundane, everyday non-sci-fi explanation for it. It's just that he (and we as viewers) have been trained through experience to dismiss that and look for the sci-fi explanation. But sometimes, there just isn't one. It was just an electrical fault in the television set. It was the metal of the ship creaking as the temperature cooled. It was another kid from the children's home messing about.

The same theme is there in the subplot. Clara and Danny's first date is such a disaster because they're both scared and nervous and assuming the worst of every little word, when in fact it's all perfectly innocent. It's not until Clara realises, in the course of explaining it to Dr Jr, that it's okay to be scared that she can let it go, not be scared and make it right with Danny.

The point is that there is no monster in this episode but the ones we create for ourselves.



So I thought I had River's story figured out but I just ended up confusing myself even more. She has been dead all along? :confused:

River's timeline is all over the place. They talk about it as if they are traveling in opposite linear directions, precisely back to front, but there are too many occasions that contradict that for it to be literally true. In fact there's a lot of jumping back and forth.

The first time the Doctor met River was the last time River met the Doctor, in "Silence in the Library." Ever since then, the Doctor has known exactly how and when River will die. Every subsequent time he's met her, it's been a later point in his timeline but an earlier point in hers, from when she was still alive. The last time the Doctor saw the living River (on screen at least, and also depending upon where the 'Night and the Doctor' shorts fit in) was in "The Angels Take Manhattan." The River that he saw in "The Name of the Doctor" was a post-death echo taken directly from the Library's computer.

Twelve talks about an adventure with River in "The Caretaker," but we don't know that he's talking about an adventure that happened while he was Twelve. It's more likely that it was an off-screen adventure while he was Eleven, who seems to be the most River-some incarnation.

At least one of the books (I think?) does talk about River having adventures with all of the previous incarnations of the Doctor at various points, each ending with her wiping their memory because she knows they don't 'know' her yet. Plus there's an upcoming audio series of River's adventures with Eight, which presumably will have to end the same way.

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Thanks for the River clarification. I've heard rumors that Alex Kingston might return though I'm not too sure that the Doctor would still be okay with being called "sweetie."

The Caretaker was the first episode so far that I've liked, minus the Clara/Danny/Doctor drama.
 
Until their is a time that he figures out he has been through all the moments that River has spent with him and there won'T be any more for him now and no amount of time travel will change that. That moment was centuries ago (though most of them obviously offscreen).

You've seen the webisode where he gets a hair cut and takes her on the last date, where River is given his screwwdriver?
 
It's like you Went to Recall, and had 5 years downloaded into your head, over the course of a few hours.

BLUESKIESONMARS!

Karen has a small part in 7 Days of Hell, which is hilarious.
 
Karen's also had a short-lived sitcom, Selfie (Which was sort of a modern reimagining of My Fair Lady) and a few movies, her highest profile one was Nebula in Marvel's Guardians of The Galaxy last year. Darvill is also keeping busy;He also had a role in Broadchurch with David Tennant and Olivia Colman(Who played Prisoner Zero in Smith's first episode). He's playing a time traveller-Rip Hunter-in the upcoming Legends of Tomorrow DC TV universe spin off.


It's interesting that there's been a lot of Nuwho actors in the MCU movies. Jenna had a very small role in Captain America: The First Avenger as Bucky's date, while Christopher Eccleston was Makelith in Thor The Dark World and Tennant is the Purple Man in the upcoming Jessica Jones Netflix series.
 
Karen's also had a short-lived sitcom, Selfie (Which was sort of a modern reimagining of My Fair Lady) and a few movies, her highest profile one was Nebula in Marvel's Guardians of The Galaxy last year. Darvill is also keeping busy;He also had a role in Broadchurch with David Tennant and Olivia Colman(Who played Prisoner Zero in Smith's first episode). He's playing a time traveller-Rip Hunter-in the upcoming Legends of Tomorrow DC TV universe spin off.


It's interesting that there's been a lot of Nuwho actors in the MCU movies. Jenna had a very small role in Captain America: The First Avenger as Bucky's date, while Christopher Eccleston was Makelith in Thor The Dark World and Tennant is the Purple Man in the upcoming Jessica Jones Netflix series.

Jack Harkness and River Song are in Arrow. ;) Don't forget them ;)
 
They shaved her head, and made a wig from the off cuts, so that she could still work after Marvel buggered away.
 
Smith likewise shaved off his hair for that Ryan Gosling movie a while back. So in Time of the Doctor I think both Gillian and Smith are wearing wigs, although with Smith they actually made it part of the plot. Sort of.


I think Nebula will also show up in Guardians 2 and possibly the Avengers Infinity War films, since Nebula was a big part of the comics version of that storyline, although she's basically a walking corpse for part of it.
 
Yeah they both had to wear wigs and I read an old interview with Karen and she said that she really wanted to switch wigs with Matt for the regeneration scene. It would have been pretty funny if they had!

I meant to say her American accent. I couldn't tell it was her.
 
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