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That, and doesn't Janeway's plan involve getting *intentionally* assimilated? If I am remembering that correctly it just makes me want to

Chakotay: "So far so good. Take us out of here, Tom."

Made me want to smash something. Yes, it was intended. Bummer. Sucked the suspense of the episode for me.

Boy I am on a nit pick fest. *goes back to my Voy happy place* it's difficult to get a sense of my liking the show when I go into pick-it-apart mode.
 
I enjoyed the concept not the execution. A few tweeks and it would have been a fave. I still think voyager is at its best in the two parters.
 
But all they had him doing was grunting, snarling and wrestling.

It was actually quite insulting I thought.
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I definitely buy the bad ass now. I took him to be a clown in the 90's but what do I know, I was a teen girl who rolled her eyes at her brother's world.
 
Bad Ass in front of a camera isn't half as bad ass as doing synchronized gymnastics to a half improvized script with stage directions that can send anyone at least 15 feet into the air and straight down again, in front of 80 thousand people who think that you are really in the fight of your life and want to see someone's neck get broken.

Just because Wrestling is not real, it doesn't mean that it's not incredibly dangerous.
 
I don't dispute that. I saw some stuff my bro was a wrestling fan. Saw injuries. Saw talent. I just didn't get it. But I didn't get Soaps either. The appeal that is. Feel free to enlighten me but I am not putting down wrestling per say, it just wasn't my cup of tea. So I'm bound to sound ignorant on some trivia.
 
Never much into wrestling unlike some of my friends, and I gave up a long time ago, but here's only one event that I still watch (sometimes), and it doesn't matter that I have no idea who all the "new" people are who seem so important to the crowd.

The Royal Rumble.

30 "Superstars" stick their name in a hat.

Those names are "randomly" (Totally scripted) drawn to establish a secret queuing order, which when followed, each one of them enters the ring every 60 seconds until they run out of Superstars.

Theoretically they could have 30 people in a ring beating the shit out of each other.

There's only way one to eliminate another super star in the Royal Rumble and that's to throw them over the top rope and have them land two feet on the ground. (sometimes it takes 5 guys working together to get one of the really big ones over the top rope, but after they finish that, they viciously turn on each other.)

I saw one guy get tossed over the top rope, do a flip and then land on his hands and then walk around (on his hands) for a while till he could figure out how to get back into the ring.

:)

Week to week it's stupid, and might as well be real sport.
 
I spent several weeks watching Sumo wrestling once, it was quite fascinating and addictive. Then they stopped showing it and I wandered off.
 
My dad watched wrestling during the 60s, when it was small regional organizations and not the big McMahon conglomerate it is now. Guys like Lou Thesz, Dick the Bruiser, Edouard Carpentier, Fritz Von Erich, etc. The kayfabe wasn't as prominent then, and there was genuinely impressive work, especially with Carpentier fighting with his bare feet. Dad used to go to live matches during the 50s, but stopped when one wrestler got hit with a metal folding chair during a match that spilled onto the floor and died in hospital that night. I remember seeing Ric Flair on televised regional matches when he started out in 1972. And the late, great Andre the Giant.
 
I spent several weeks watching Sumo wrestling once, it was quite fascinating and addictive. Then they stopped showing it and I wandered off.

I remember that! It was in the 80s or 90s, they showed it at 6pm weekdays on ABC, something like that. The only sport that ever engaged me. I was saddened to hear recently about the corruption endemic in the sport, but then that's Japan for you.
 
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Yeah I was watching it thinking that I could actually get into this, me the sport-averse person. Each match was unique, some took forever, some were over in a moment.

Also if you read what they eat it blows your mind.
 
You gave up way too early on DS9, IMHO. 4-6 are the best seasons.

Voyager is meh. There are a few good episodes. When I was younger, I loved it. Now I see it for what it is: campy sci fi. Most of the episodes are very forgettable.
 
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