Yeah, this is the only thing about Discovery I don't like. I try to look away when these scenes come up. LOL
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Yeah, this is the only thing about Discovery I don't like. I try to look away when these scenes come up. LOL
The Discovery novel Desperate Hours already dealt with this. Constitution class ships got their own special uniforms. When Pike means "We got the new uniforms", he means "new" as in "new for the rest of the fleet", who will be getting them in 2257 after Starfleet decides to make the design fleetwide.I did notice one thing. Apparently the *new* uniforms aren't so new after all since the Enterprise has had them for at least three years now.
And the Enterprise crew are impressed by the Turbolift Funhouse™ (something about seeing where the Federation spends it's pennies) and in "Q&A" we see the Enterprise has one too.I did notice one thing. Apparently the *new* uniforms aren't so new after all since the Enterprise has had them for at least three years now.
BudgetI did notice one thing. Apparently the *new* uniforms aren't so new after all since the Enterprise has had them for at least three years now.
But I like the beats and the shouting!
The Turbolift set up is one of the few things that really consistently bugs me in Discovery. I just don't understand how that works with all of the decks and other stuff on the ship. The way they show it, it looks like it would have to take up almost the entire body of the ship all by itself.
I don't have a problem with wanting a cool visual, but they could at least come up with one that makes sense.
I don't have a problem with wanting a cool visual, but they could at least come up with one that makes sense.
Well, neither is the Discovery. And those are the two things equated as being "new". Pike got the uniforms, presumably when sailing out for his five-year mission. Lorca got the internally gleaming Discovery.
No doubt it's the same thing as in the Kelvinverse: the tricolor suite goes to the deep space explorers, who actually revert to the duller darkies when returning to the civilization.
Then again, the Discovery has interior to burn.
The secondary hull only has portholes to the edges of the keel structure; most of the interior is unknown to us, save for a diamond pattern of Jeffries tubes suggested in a Glenn diagram. Furthermore, the thick neck is the same: in zoom-ins, we see the portholes on the sides are to corridors running along said sides, while the broad middle lacks portholes in the forward view. Indeed, there's the suggestion of a big square forward hatch there, as if the neck indeed were some sort of a single open space.
It's a more demanding job to fit the turbolift roller coaster within the Enterprise. Yes, that ship's secondary hull is also famed for its vast centerline cavity, but not that vast. And she's supposedly a purpose-built ship full of businesslike parts, rather than a flying science fair with weird experiments suspended inside willy-nilly.
Then again again, perhaps the ride was within Starbase 40 instead, and Spock just beamed to the entry foyer labeled Enterprise, right next to the one labeled Farragut, before taking the lift to the ship proper.
Timo Saloniemi
Portholes are often mistaking for sensors, at least from what I have read here.
I LOVE the Turbolift Funhouse.
I don't really care if it makes sense or not; it looks cool, and (IMHO) is not particularly important to the storyline, so why make a big deal out of it? It's just artistic license writ large.
I don't really care if it makes sense or not; it looks cool, and (IMHO) is not particularly important to the storyline, so why make a big deal out of it? It's just artistic license writ large.
Based on the Kelvinverse Enterprise, and not really contradicted by anything in TOS, I’ve decided that the saucer features a more regular deck arrangement, while the engineering hull is basically a shell built around a bunch of BigMachines™ such as the transporter, navigational deflector, warp engine reactors/power distribution, hangar spaces, connecting corridors for personnel, etc. The turbolift funhouse just snakes around all this crap until it gets to the saucer.
Anything that's Star Trek is already guaranteed to get at least a 5 from me, even Spock's Brain. You throw in Rebecca Romijn and that automagically gives it 2 extra points. So we were already starting off with a 7 before the Short Trek even began. And well, I really enjoyed it. Rebecca Romijn was there. I like both actors in those roles - they work well together. I enjoyed the dialogue. I laughed. And Rebecca Romijn was there. I got to see that sweet Disco-ized Enterprise bridge again. And Rebecca Romijn was there. So, with all of that in mind, I gave it a 10.
Not just the secondary hull, we see in Beyond that the entire rear quarter of the saucer is hollow too, around the separation mechanisms.
There still isn't room for the Funhouse, though
(Nor is there for Ten Forward, the reboot Enterprise shuttlebay, Voyager's shuttlebay 2, etc etc)
I'm telling you, the turbolift system is a series of transwarp conduits. They don't actually exist in the ship, only the doors do.
FInally got around to seeing this one.
I didn't expect to like it as much as I did!
I hate the turbulift-funhouse of DIS. And I never cared for their version of the TOS Enterprise, or Peck's good Spock or Romjin's No.1 during DIS season 2. And "being stuck together to get to know each other" is kind of a cliché. But this short showed why: Sometimes it just works.
Interestingly, I liked the beginning much less - Peck doesn't work as "logical" Spock, and quite honestly, the whole "Q&A"-part was annoying. And I didn't like the dig at the prime directive (it's a very, very good rule. Many writers just don't get it. Those should look more TOS).
It's the parts that are "controversial" around here that I really liked!
The singing. Spock smiling. Spock laughing. The whole "keeping a secret"-part. And especially the contrast of "Vulcan knowing awe, but not showing it". That was VERY much TOS!
Despite that, I'm still not warming up to Peck as Spock. Both Nimoy and Quinto had an intensity to their performance, that's just lacking in Peck. Nimoy and Quinto at times felt almost dangerous should they ever loose their tight control. Peck seemed... too friendly? Right from the start? Also, I think the whole directing felt super rushed, I would have loved this to play out much slower, as one of more plotlines of a real episode.
But overall - I liked that very much!
I didn't expect to like it as much as I did!
I hate the turbulift-funhouse of DIS. And I never cared for their version of the TOS Enterprise, or Peck's good Spock or Romjin's No.1 during DIS season 2. And "being stuck together to get to know each other" is kind of a cliché. But this short showed why: Sometimes it just works.
Interestingly, I liked the beginning much less - Peck doesn't work as "logical" Spock, and quite honestly, the whole "Q&A"-part was annoying. And I didn't like the dig at the prime directive (it's a very, very good rule. Many writers just don't get it. Those should look more TOS).
It's the parts that are "controversial" around here that I really liked!
The singing. Spock smiling. Spock laughing. The whole "keeping a secret"-part. And especially the contrast of "Vulcan knowing awe, but not showing it". That was VERY much TOS!
Despite that, I'm still not warming up to Peck as Spock. Both Nimoy and Quinto had an intensity to their performance, that's just lacking in Peck. Nimoy and Quinto at times felt almost dangerous should they ever loose their tight control. Peck seemed... too friendly? Right from the start? Also, I think the whole directing felt super rushed, I would have loved this to play out much slower, as one of more plotlines of a real episode.
But overall - I liked that very much!
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