yeah, once again they're bizarrely dismissive. i do not understand the closed mindedness with which so many people have approached this new iteration of star trek.
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I don't know how PIC will turn out but I do know it'll be better than three out of four TNG movies combined.
That's not hard to do, but it is a good point.
I tend to agree simply because Star Trek is almost always better served on television rather than movies.
Out of personally curiosity is there a reason open-mindedness is difficult to follow?
I mean, I get not liking changes to properties I love. That's the reason why I cannot stand TNG as it is a fundamental shift for me moving from TOS to that. But, it has its ups and downs and generally I have come to accept it, even if I don't like it.
I think it’s really just Alex Kurtzman’s name attached that they, especially Rich Evans, seem really hung up about. The name is brought up a dozen times during that segment.
And I think Rich Evans is just more wanting the TNG model. Mike at least acknowledges that TOS was heavy on adventure and that it wasn’t always about telling morality tales.
MICHAEL. FUCKING. CHABON.
Picard’s showrunner is a Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist. But sure, bitch about Kurtzman.
Given that Star Trek: Picard was Kirsten Beyer's idea and that Michael Chabon is showrunning, people really need to calm down about Kurtzman's involvement. He has the same job now that Rick Berman had during Next Gen and DS9 (overseeing the business side of the franchise while the showrunners oversee the creative side), and that worked out beautifully.
Granted, he also showran the back half of Discovery: Season 2, but that was an emergency situation after the showrunners were fired for treating the staff like shit. And he's co-showrunning Season 3 with Michelle Paradise, but I'm pretty sure that's just a smooth transition thing like when Michael Piller co-showran 3/4s of DS9: Season 3 to help Ira Behr ease into it.
People keep act like the sky is falling when we're likely on the precipice of a Trek renaissance. One that, like Doctor Who's renaissance, will make the franchise popular and mainstream among non-geeks and give the franchise the financial ability to take risks and keep doing so for years to come.
since it's a tv show, it's pretty low stakes honestly. what do we have to lose? $5.99 with commercials, $9.99 without.
usually it comes down to watch or don't watch, but since it's star trek, i get the need to watch it even if it's not the star trek you want. but going into it with a closed mind only makes it a chore, means it's destined to fail because you're looking for flaws to support your predetermined negative feelings toward it. you might as well save yourself the $5.99.
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No...that's not what I took away from that
Too bad I'm not at home for a few days, and am stuck using only a cellphone. Otherwise I'd link to YouTube videos of some of the more action-packed trailers for old TNG episodes.
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I’m not bitching about anything. I liked the Picard trailer and I like Michael Chabon. I do wish Fuller was kept on Discovery though.
None of the movies were even close to being as good as some of the individual episodes of the series of which they were based.
At the end of Season 1, Patrick Stewart will regenerate into Richard Dean Anderson.
Matched everything I brought up. The trailer looks like typical Nu-Trek "muh fate of the entire universe" action schlock and has every Kurtzman red flag there is.
Chabon could be the greatest writer in the world for all I care, Beyer a fantastic writer who wrote great Trek work was a lead writer on Discovery and that show turned out to be a shallow, incoherent, tedious trainwreck you could tell was 90% focus testing producer controlled. Writers don't work in a vacuum, showrunners along with the directors, producers and suits all have crazy influence in what shows up on screen and that terrible trailer along with the "dark and gritty" comments is not giving me and a lot of the fandom any hope. Just like Mike as soon as I got to "she doesn't know what she is, SHES THE DESTROYER" crap I nope'd out. Alarm bells were already screaming when characters were specifically talking in completely unnatural ways to keep the mystery box of her "true identity" secret and what looks like more ugh *sigh* S31 nonsense.
Also the reason people get hung up on Kurtzman is because he's a completely predictable hack f-tier JJ wannabe who turns everything he touches into complete garbage in the exact same way every time. Gotta love those Mummy reviews:
Vince Mancini of Uproxx gave the film a negative review, writing: "If you like incomprehensible collections of things that vaguely resemble other things you might've enjoyed in the past, The Mummy is the movie for you."[68] IndieWire's David Ehrlich gave the film a D-, calling it the worst film of Cruise's career and criticizing its lack of originality, saying: "It's one thing to excavate the iconography of old Hollywood, it's another to exploit it. This isn't filmmaking, it's tomb-raiding."[69]
Sound familiar to criticisms of another Kurtzman led property?
Again hope I'm wrong and Picard is great. I'm still giving it a 85% chance of being a shallow, incoherent, Kurtzman vehicle.
Not James McAvoy?
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