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NEW ONGOING TREK CROSSOVER SERIES BEGINS OCTOBER 2022

You're using air dates and assumptions about stardates to guess lengths of time.

Umm, I'm the one who pointed out that you can't assume the in-story timing corresponds to the real-world timing -- scroll up and read the first paragraph in post #107. My point is that your assumptions are no better. You're trying to use calendar years as "evidence" for when an anniversary falls, and that's a fundamental mismatch of scale. People routinely use "three years" to mean anything from two and a half to three and a half years, or an even wider spread if they're going by calendar years. So it's far too imprecise to prove anything about an exact, to-the-day interval. I'm not "assuming" an answer is correct, I'm saying we don't have clear enough evidence to assume any answer is correct. Sometimes the only intelligent answer is "We just don't know."



Personally, I choose to side with the amount of time that is stated outright on screen. (Sisko's log, I mean.) Maybe that's my own bias, I've never hewn to stardates.

And as I said in post #107, I'd be willing to agree with you if not for the show's general practice to assume that the number of years elapsed in-story corresponds to the number of years in real life. When there's a significant exception like "Second Sight," it makes it hard to reconcile. It's more a question of internal consistency than anything else.
 
I purchased the first issue of the new Star Trek series. I'm torn because I liked the focus given to Sisko, and the mystery that was set up was intriguing, but the premise of a kind of Star Trek Avengers feels gimmicky to me. I also liked the artwork overall.

I also didn't care that this story seemed shoved between VOY's "Endgame" and Star Trek: Nemesis. That lessens the stakes, but if they were going to draw from various Trek series for some of the casting, I wish they had gone more obscure and off the beaten path and used characters that didn't show up later on Lower Decks or in PIC, and it was a good guess that they wouldn't be showing up again to round out the cast.

I thought it was interesting to start out the story with an article from Jake though it got Jake's age wrong when it came to the Battle of Wolf 359, and I liked the Jake/Kira conversation, and the idea that the Dominion War is already being forgotten.

I liked how Sisko was depicted here better than in the Litverse "Rough Beasts of Empire" but the line that this mystery is "bigger" than Sisko's family didn't sit right with me. It moved the story along, but I think it did so at the expense of Sisko's promise in the DS9 finale. I don't get why they just didn't give him a reunion with Kasidy, let him meet his daughter, and then have a tearful separation as Sisko has to get on with it. Perhaps they are saving the reunion for a finale or some big turning point in the series, but it didn't feel right to me that Sisko would be so dismissive. I am glad that Jake is along for the ride.

Back to the gimmicky aspects. Why did Sisko need to go to Picard? Where was Admiral Ross or Whatley? I was okay with the Theseus as a starship-it stands out-but I didn't care for the new uniforms. I'm guessing they are just for that starship, like how the Protostar Starfleet crew had their own uniforms on Prodigy.
 
This was ok. Not sure how I feel. Sisko not meeting his daughter or apparently even talking to Kasidy feels like echoes of bad novel choices. The crew choices feel kind of bland. Data is annoying me already. Crusher seems okay so far, I guess. Tom Paris was probably my least favorite VGR character (yes, I like him less than Neelix), and Scotty has been so overused in 24th century tie-in fiction, it feels like including him is old hat. And if there was a character I would definitely NOT want to read the further adventures of, after 11 years of TV, several movies, an upcoming Picard role, and a prominent figure in the novels, it's Worf, so that's not an enticing upcoming cast addition.

T'Lir being non-binary is kind of interesting, and makes me wonder about if their naming, given their masculine appearance, was a conscious choice of their own, or if they were raised in a non-binary way. I can't recall anything to indicate Vulcans do not generally follow the human binary more-or-less.

Sato seems all right. I hope her having two fathers is a call back to the four sexes idea from the novels than just her two gay dads. The gay parents thing has become, in my mind, a way of giving a nod to diversity than actual diversity. And how does this all work with the idea she's descended from Hoshi Sato?

The plot wasn't all that interesting so far. I'll give it a couple of issues at least.
 
Andorians are said to have four person marriages in canon. There is no implication that the two males (or chan and thaan according to the novels) have any kind of homosexual relationship.
 
Also, why does the MSD on the Theseus' Bridge appear to be of a Sovereign Class? Yes, their size profiles are similar, but the nacelles on the MSD are definitely coming from the secondary hull and not the saucer?!
 
Data is annoying me already. Crusher seems okay so far, I guess. Tom Paris was probably my least favorite VGR character (yes, I like him less than Neelix), and Scotty has been so overused in 24th century tie-in fiction, it feels like including him is old hat. And if there was a character I would definitely NOT want to read the further adventures of, after 11 years of TV, several movies, an upcoming Picard role, and a prominent figure in the novels, it's Worf, so that's not an enticing upcoming cast addition.
I wonder, based on nothing, whether this will be a rotating-cast series pulling in various crew members from the series depending on the needs of particular missions.
 
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Well, that one was a screwup by the showrunners.
 
Well, that one was a screwup by the showrunners.

To be fair, if you go with the general idea that the second digit in the stardate represents the TNG year, if you go with the 43997 number as sometime in Year 3, and 46379.1 corresponding to Year 6, you can easily make that error. Is December 2019 three years before March 2022? No. But you can understand it.
 
Is December 2019 three years before March 2022? No.

Yes or no, depending on what degree of precision you choose to employ. If you treat months as your unit and define a year as 12 months, then it breaks down to 27 months = c. 2.25 years. But if you use years as your units and measure to only one significant figure, then yes, 2022-2019 = 3 years. And that rougher measurement is good enough for broad purposes like writing a TV caption to give a general sense of the passage of time where the exact interval is unimportant. The whole reason stardates were invented was to avoid giving precise chronological information, because too much rigidity would be restrictive on the storytellers. It's preferable in that context to use broad-strokes figures like "three years" rather than narrowing it down to the month or day.

Shows like Star Trek give a misleading impression by having smart people like Spock always rattle things off in exact numbers with decimal points, like "The odds are 2,753,492.273 to 1." It falsely equates precision with accuracy. Not every measurement needs to be equally precise, and sometimes it's better to be less precise, for instance in cases where there's a wide margin of uncertainty. It depends on the specific context.
 
Meanwhile Lower Decks has gone and changed the common preception of the Stardate, by not having the second digit represent a year.
 
Finally I received my latest shipment from my LCS which had this new #1. Overall, I thought it was decent. The art was really good, some of the panel layouts were interesting, the double page spreads were nice, the info page on the Theseus was much appreciated and yes, even the uniforms looked okay.

As for Sisko, while the reunion with Jake seemed heartfelt, I agree that the lack of Kasidy and their daughter's appearance seems like an odd choice yet my impression is that the writers are going with presenting Sisko as being 'off'. His stay with the Prophets has apparently altered his perceptions and thinking so what we may think would be normal actions/reactions, he has to become re-accustomed to experiencing now that he has returned. Plus, his focus on this new mission given to him by the Prophets seems overriding to him at the moment. It's an interesting choice and I'm willing to hang around to see how the writers progress with it.

As for the crew, I'm okay with this initial selection, Data has always been a favorite, Paris is Paris though if he's around, I'd want to see B'Lanna at some point. Crusher is tolerable and I'll see about these new crew members.

As for the story itself:

While the exact nature of this threat remains a mystery, I'm intrigued by Sisko's flashes with the Prophets. The sequence in the beginning is outlined in blue, the sequence in the end is outlined in red. Also seeing the small red image of a wormhole apparently reflected in Sisko's eyes on the very last panel, I have to wonder Pah-Wraiths anyone?

I don't mind Jake's reference to the Borg being 'god-like'. To his young mind (at whatever age discrepancies aside), I would think an alien force that's nigh unstoppable and seemingly all-powerful would appear god-like in some fashion, an impression that is likely to linger with him over time even if he learns better. Besides, the implication seems in line with the original intentions of the TNG episode Q Who that I once read about, Picard having to make a choice, accept God's help in overcoming the Devil or not.. or something along those lines. Correct me if I'm mistaken on that part.

Lastly, my main nitpick is small but a major one for me. Look at the double page spread when Sisko arrives on the bridge of the Theseus. Off to the far left is a crew member, a female whose wearing what looks like some type of Native American headpiece or ear wear. It's a distinctive look. Yet when the bridge crew is introduced, she's not! She even appears in some later panels, drawn with that head piece. Well who is she? Don't introduce someone with such a distinctive look and then not formally introduce them. Argh, aggravating :)
 
They've also used fan art instead of official Trek ships on at least 3 occasions; and one memorable time covered the TOS Enterprise bridge with TNG LCARS graphics
 
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Thanks! Took me some digging to find the Klingons comic on Amazon but I bought it now and will read it in advance of Captain Worf.
 
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