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New Aventine novel announced for 2015!

Enjoy the Aventine; don't enjoy Captain Ezri. The very idea that she's a Captain before literally every other character in all of the 24th century just chaps my ass.

You're forgetting Kira Nerys (promoted to captain in 2376), Chakotay (promoted to captain in 2378), and Will Riker (promoted to captain in 2379). Not to mention Elizabeth Shelby, Kat Mueller, and Sonya Gomez. A lot of 24th-century series-regular characters (counting Gomez as the SCE lead) reached captain's rank before Ezri was promoted in 2381.

It's not as if every character is even pursuing captaincy in the first place. Militaries don't work that way. The higher the rank, the fewer people ever reach it. And ship command is just one specialty. The majority of people in any naval service go through their entire careers without getting ships to command, because quite a lot of them aren't trying to.

Case in point, Geordi was offered a command track posting as Riker's second on Titan, but decided he'd rather be a Chief Engineer.
 
Enjoy the Aventine; don't enjoy Captain Ezri. The very idea that she's a Captain before literally every other character in all of the 24th century just chaps my ass. She was a neurotic waste of time one-season character who stole way too much of DS9's 7th season for herself when the time should have been spent on the crew we'd loved and lost with for the prior 6 years. Jadzia forever, Ezri never! :P

I felt the same way, but she's kind of been growing on me the last few books. Still not sure I'd buy an Aventine novel though. Oh well, that's what public libraries are for. I might try it out there first.
 
I'm really looking forward to this novel for the promised Aventine-y goodness!
I love how Ezri has grown in the ten years (in universe) since we saw her as a newly joined ensign in DS9. Ten years is a long time, and during that period we've only seen brief glimpses into her life, but each time she graces a novel, her character becomes stronger and more rounded.
The same goes for Sam Bowers, Lonnnoc Kedair and Simon Tarses.
 
I think it's worth pointing out that isn't going to be to be an Aventine only novel. I know one of the descriptions I read, either from JJM or Margaret Clark, said that it features more than just the Aventine characters. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was actually given the title for whatever series the other characters are from.
I'm pretty sure some of the other novels with Aventine in it were announced as "Aventine" novels, but released under a different series title.
 
I know one of the descriptions I read, either from JJM or Margaret Clark, said that it features more than just the Aventine characters.

I'd be curious to read that, as I'm sure others would be, any chance you can supply a link?
 
From JJM's blog, (the link is in the OP by the way :vulcan:) :

Following my debut in the Star Trek universe with next month's Titan: Absent Enemies e-novella, I have a full-length Star Trek novel releasing in 2015!


It's as Margaret describes: I had a lot of fun writing the novella, and was struck with a great idea for a stand-alone adventure novel set in the 24th Century era. It turned out to fit in well with Pocket Books' plans to focus on missions of exploration, as Margaret describes in the podcast, so I'm pleased to be doing it.

As she says in the interview, it involves the Aventine, the ship of Ezri Dax (who you may recall from Deep Space Nine and many fine Trek novels); there are also many characters familiar to viewers of The Next Generation with major roles. Far too early to say anything else, other than it should be a blast to read!

http://blog.farawaypress.com/2014/01/more-on-star-trek-titan-absent-enemies.html
 
You know...ever since A Singular Destiny, I've kinda been hoping Sonek would make a repeat appearance on Aventine and be a permanent fixture...a sort of Maturin to Dax's Aubrey.
 
I'm glad to hear that this isn't a stand alone with the Aventine. I hate the way Ezri has developed. I liked her best in the Fall when she didn't have a ship. She was more like Dax and less like the generic captain with issues we've had since she was promoted in the Destiny trilogy. Ezri as captain hasn't been as cool as it should have been. She's just been written as a bitchy captain always in a bad mood.

Look I've got no problems with Dax as a captain. Ezri I do. Anyone who knows Deep Space Nine and it's characters will know what I'm talking about. What would Ira Streve Behr or Ronald Moore think of the way DS9's characters have been written?
 
I'm glad to hear that this isn't a stand alone with the Aventine. I hate the way Ezri has developed. I liked her best in the Fall when she didn't have a ship. She was more like Dax and less like the generic captain with issues we've had since she was promoted in the Destiny trilogy. Ezri as captain hasn't been as cool as it should have been. She's just been written as a bitchy captain always in a bad mood.

Look I've got no problems with Dax as a captain. Ezri I do. Anyone who knows Deep Space Nine and it's characters will know what I'm talking about. What would Ira Streve Behr or Ronald Moore think of the way DS9's characters have been written?

I think you need only look at BSG to see that Ron Moore might not mind a "bitchy captain [almost] always in a bad mood" ;)
 
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I'm glad to hear that this isn't a stand alone with the Aventine. I hate the way Ezri has developed. I liked her best in the Fall when she didn't have a ship. She was more like Dax and less like the generic captain with issues we've had since she was promoted in the Destiny trilogy. Ezri as captain hasn't been as cool as it should have been. She's just been written as a bitchy captain always in a bad mood.

Look I've got no problems with Dax as a captain. Ezri I do. Anyone who knows Deep Space Nine and it's characters will know what I'm talking about. What would Ira Streve Behr or Ronald Moore think of the way DS9's characters have been written?

I think you need only look at BSG to see that Ron Moore might not mind a "bitchy captain [almost] always in a bad mood" ;)

No thanks. I'm allergic to BSG. Give me a rash. But I'll take your word for it. :)
 
Look I've got no problems with Dax as a captain. Ezri I do. Anyone who knows Deep Space Nine and it's characters will know what I'm talking about.

I know DS9 and its characters, and I don't agree with your assessment at all. Ezri deciding to move to the command track in the DS9 Relaunch really made her character so much more interesting, and so much more than just a neurotic Ally McTrill.

What would Ira Streve Behr or Ronald Moore think of the way DS9's characters have been written?

I have three reactions:

1. I think that they'd probably see some creative decisions they agree with, and some creative decisions they don't agree with. And they probably wouldn't agree with one-another about which ones are which. Such is the nature of art; artists will always have to make creative choices that don't satisfy everyone, and will always find themselves making choices that make sense to some and don't to others. This is unavoidable.

2. You're forgetting Robert Hewitt Wolfe, René Echevarria, Hans Beimler, David Weddle, Peter Allen Fields, Michael Taylor, Michael Piller, and Bradley Thompson. DS9 was not the exclusive product of Behr and Moore.

3. Who cares? It's not like their artistic decisions are any more inherently valid than Marco Palmieri's, KRAD's, Una McCormack's, or David Mack's.
 
Did any of you read the wonderful review of 'Profit and Lace' on Avclub recently?

To sum up: Quark threatens to fire an employee unless she grants him sexual favors. Then we spend a whole 40 minutes on Quark eventually kind of sort of learning to appreciate the female species, or something. Then he finds out Aluura is actually into the “oo-mox” thing (???), and while he’s briefly kind and apologetic to her, he immediately recants and, presumably, the fuckery commences in earnest. No one learned anything, no one changed, no one grew. Nothing meant anything. Glad we could share this together. Now if you’ll excuse me, there’s a wall that needs staring.
 
I am so very not looking forward to doing "Profit and Lace" in the DS9 Rewatch. I didn't even watch that atrocity when I was rewatching all the Ferengi episodes to prepare for WoDS93.....
 
Reading Zack's review, I was thinking how you will write your review come the day, Krad!

PS, I really enjoyed your Feringinar novel - there was so much done here to rectify or add to tv ferengi. Although my one main criticism of it, and it was one I really thought was interesting given your treatment of gender in both book and reviews, was that Leeta felt almost as voiceless as Rom's (suitably horrifying in her Stepford-esque way) first wife. Was this deliberate? I imagine Leeta is hard to write, but it was disappointing to see her relegated to being mostly the 'silent wife in distress pregnancy' trope. There was that one scene with Ro, which was good to see, but she never felt very distinct.
 
I couldn't STAND Ezri in the TV series. I thought she was by far the most over-emotional, whiny, obnoxious character I have ever seen on Star Trek. Now that the novels have developed her into a character that isn't so two-dimensional, made her more like a 'Dax', I can rewatch those episodes without feeling so negative about the character. I'll surely read this when it's released.
 
Anyone who knows Deep Space Nine and it's characters will know what I'm talking about.

Uhm, no they don't. I loved Ezri on the show, it was Ezri from the novels I couldn't stand. Only now has she been showing some common sense during Ceremony of Losses. Up untill then, TrekLit Ezri was a stuck up little know-it-all because of all her previous knowledge from other hosts. Knowledge is nothing without hubris, something TrekLit Ezri was lacking if you ask me.
 
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