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Netflix greenlights new "Lost in Space"

It's odd to me that Mr. Robinson, being military personnel, would need the approval of someone to "print" the gun. I could see him having sole access to the pattern (having the thumb drive) but why would he need permission to "print" it? He's military, I'd think the permission would be presumed.
Speaking as someone who lives in a country with mostly sane gun control laws (and who grew up around the military) servicing in the armed forces does not automatically entitle you to privately own and operate a lethal weapon. If you want one, you have to apply for a license just like everyone else.

In the context of this show, that means permission from their elected colony rep, who seems to be somewhere between a small town mayor and an MP.

As to why one might have a security function (or one might say a "lock") on a 3D printer: the obvious answer is that kids have access to that thing and no matter how smart and capable they are they're still kids and should not be given free access to firearms...or swords, knives or anything inherently dangerous.
 
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Trajectory
Quite interesting. It also shows the character development of the Robinsons, that they are concerned that John wouldn't make it. 8/10.


Resurrection
Deals with the aftermath of the previous episode rather well. The storyline with Maureen and Dr. Smith was rather well done. 8.5/10.


Danger, Will Robinson
A Dramatic conclusion, and a very effective one.
The lenghs to which Maureen goes to to protect her family, and to rescue her husband are very believable.
9/10.


Overall
Overall, it is a good series. (I haven't seen the original for over ten years, so can't really compare). The characters are all believable (especially Doctor Smith! And Penny's quips are very good) and the storyline around the robot was very engaging (as was the dangers the planet presented). Highly recommended.
 
I'm wondering if that figure 8 object we see at the end is an alien structure. The rings look like a structure to me.
 
After episode 8, I was down with summary execution for Smith.

Didn't expect it to go the direction it did in episode 10. However many points you want to subtract for the preposterousness of the last 90 minutes or so, it was delightful to have no fucking idea what would happen next in one of these fantasy extravaganzas - and more than that, to actually care.

Been a long time.

I loved this show. Flat out loved it. Up until halfway through I was thinking "this is nice," and then...maybe when Will faced up to what he saw as his responsibilities in a painful way...it just took off.

The cast is uniformly excellent, sometimes irritatingly so - there are some infuriating and yet fairly well-rounded characters in the show. And the attempt to treat the unpleasant folks in an even-handed manner rather than reduce them entirely to mustache-twirlers (thinking of Victor, here) is one of the admirable things about it.

Maxwell Jenkins is a twelve year-old actor who's given the task of being the emotional heart of the show as well as arguably the viewpoint character; he's at the center of the drama a great deal of the time. And he nails it.

Overall, the creators of the show appear to have known exactly what they wanted to create, worked it out and followed through in every detail, and produced a series that's absolutely successful in every way at achieving their apparent goals. This in itself makes the show a standout. And for my money, it was a show worth doing.
 
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Maxwell Jenkins is a twelve year-old actor who's given the task of being the emotional heart of the show as well as arguably the viewpoint character; he's at the center of the drama a great deal of the time. And he nails it.

And he does it while acting against an expressionless, effectively silent man in a robot suit. It's all him. That kid is great.

Overall, the creators of the show appear to have known exactly what they wanted to create, worked it out and followed through in every detail, and produced a series that's absolutely successful in every way at achieving their apparent goals. This in itself makes the show a standout. And for my money, it was a show worth doing.

It's absolutely nothing like the original Lost in Space and simultaneously exactly like the original Lost in Space. It's the sort of respectful modernizing that Trek fans often insist is impossible for a property that old.

Also, Debbie the chicken is great.
 
Is there some implied... "romance" between Don West and Judy? Because that feels awkward given then massive age difference between the characters AND the actors, but the flirtation and such is somewhat there.

Not a whole lot of other eligible men going to be around for the foreseeable future.

Didn't expect it to go the direction it did in episode 10. However many points you want to subtract for the preposterousness of the last 90 minutes or so, it was delightful to have no fucking idea what would happen next in one of these fantasy extravaganzas - and more than that, to actually care.

I kept waiting for them to...

Blow up the Resolute. I wanted to see the smug leader character get it.

My wife pats me on the hand and says "it isn't that kind of show". :lol:
 
I thought the turnaround on the Resolute and Victor was a nice touch. The writers have not really resorted to ginning up drama by providing "mustache-twirlers" among the supporting cast. Victor is a human being with some fairly consistent character traits - an asshole, certainly, but a human asshole.

You know, they could have pulled some melodramatic crap mid-series where John and or Maureen challenged Victor over the leadership issue. That's one of the dumb things that seemed inevitable and yet somehow didn't happen.
 
After episode 8, I was down with summary execution for Smith.
Anybody asking for Smith's motivation, that's it right there. When she boarded the Resolute she stepped off a cliff. (Although if Don can shuttle back and forth for whiskey why can't they just send Smith home?) The Resolute captain might have been playing bad cop when he rather overtly threatened her, but Smith is certainly fighting for her life.

I don't get the people who say that she just "randomly does bad stuff". Everything she does is to maximize her chance of survival in an environment where even letting people find out who she is is an impediment to that goal. She's nuts but she's not random.

It's absolutely nothing like the original Lost in Space and simultaneously exactly like the original Lost in Space.
That's pretty much perfect. I laughed everytime they introduced an echo to the original.

Like when they put Don on the J2 because, hey, Don is supposed to fly the J2, right?

At the end of the season the Jupiter 2 will be Lost in Space with the Robinsons, Don, and Smith because Smith sabotaged them with the Robot. TA DA!

For anyone unfamiliar with the original LiS, even Debbie is an homage:
That's NUTS. Bravo. RIP Debbie.

I must say the scene with Maureen's helium-fueled declaration is one I laughed real hard at and will remember. :lol:
A highlight to be sure.
 
Finished watching it and I greatly enjoyed it. It's a fun and entertaining show with great cinematography. The weakest thing about it is Dr Smith, who seems to be written in a very two-dimensional way. The writing for her character also suffers from a trope ( I think it's a trope?) where villain characters don't operate on the same rule-base as the rest of the characters, where no matter what happens to them, keep coming back as if they have the upper hand to keep manipulating. An example of this would be Gillian on Boardwalk Empire, who I feel had overworn her welcome by the 4th season but that the writers felt compelled to keep her around, even with little to do by the 5th season. Another example would be The Swede aka Thor Gunderson on Hell on Wheels. I certainly hope they give Dr Smith more development and round her out a bit more and make her more interesting other than wanting to manipulate all the time.

Looking forward to what they can do in Season 2.
 
Finished it today myself and really liked it. Hope to see them get a second season.

I'm kind of mixed on Dr. Smith, it'd have been nice if she was given some "redeeming" quality or something to latch on to her as a person and not just a sociopath. Fucking with people for the sake of fucking with them.

Is it me or does it seem like a bad idea to not have a manual crank to close the bay door INSIDE the ship as well as outside it?

I knew the robot would flip back to protecting Will, sort of wish it was done less... "randomly" and more from Will doing/saying things to it to convince it to help Will instead of Smith.

Ummm... Why didn't Don's eyes naturally tear up from the irritant being in them?

But, overall the show was good. I liked the look and "science" of it too.
 
I'm kind of mixed on Dr. Smith, it'd have been nice if she was given some "redeeming" quality or something to latch on to her as a person and not just a sociopath. Fucking with people for the sake of fucking with them.
I don't think she ever does that. She always has a purpose and it's always about her. But no, there is nothing redeeming about her. I would sooner trust Gary Oldman's Smith.

She's in a lot of trouble now. It will be interesting in seeing that play out. Even though she's pretty much all bad I don't think she's one note.

I knew the robot would flip back to protecting Will, sort of wish it was done less... "randomly" and more from Will doing/saying things to it to convince it to help Will instead of Smith.
I get why it went the way it went but I think that they lost something with the Robot in the middle and they were never able to really bring it back. I never would have thought that in a show where all of the relationships and characters were so well done that the crucial story would really be an 11 year old and his Robot. We usually hate that kind of thing, don't we?

I hope they don't tease that out too long next season. OTOH I hope we get more of Will and John as well.

Ummm... Why didn't Don's eyes naturally tear up from the irritant being in them?
Right?
 
Yeah, I think I'd sooner trust Oldman's Smith too, he seemed to have more "purpose" and drive behind him, but that movie is it's own series of problems. It'd just be interesting how they get Smith "into the fold" of the group in any future seasons, and will they still call her Dr. Smith when she's not a doctor? Or a Smith? The show writers seemed to put themselves in a corner with that one, not sure why they made such a change. They could have had Parker Posey still be this sociopathic, self-serving, character in these circumstances and still be a Doctor (whether a medical doctor or simply someone with a PhD) and a "Smith."

Because now it's just a question of what happens from here. It'll be interesting to see what they'd do with a second season to keep "this pace" and feel of the show and stay homaged to the original series.

I did appreciate the largely true-to-science stuff in it and some of the survival aspects of it that reminded me heavily of the movie "The Martian," the only problem I have is these spacecraft apparently running off of combustion engines that run off methane?! Huh?! There was enough "pressurized" methane in that tanker car to fuel all 20-something Jupiters enough to get them off this planet's surface? There's the points in this show where it seems like they get the science of the world and are trying, and then there's them giving these large-sized spacecraft engines that run off a small amount of hydride when present-day spacecraft liftoff using liquidized gas and that over 90% of a spacecraft's mass is dedicated to fuel and fuel storage. (Look at any spacecraft's size and consider most of that is fuel storage and small part of is dedicated to transporting people and equipment.) But, the spacecraft also don't have any "aerodynamics" to them that's make them flight worthy, so maybe with the alien tech they also have some-kind-of sci-fi system where the fuel simply powers a mass-reduction field and a field that gives the craft aerodynamics to make it flight worthy and thus it needs very little fuel and propulsion? But the system has limits, hence the need to reduce mass on the Jupiter to perform the limited fuel launch?

I dunno. There's that kind of bizarre "science" in it that doesn't make sense, and then there's the dedication to science like the Hawking Radiation indicating a black hole.

But, I liked it. Really enjoyed Penny's character and her wit/snark, and Mom Robinson I thought was awesome and liked the rebuilding of her relationship with Dad Robinson.

I was critical of the show when I first saw the trailers, it just looked like and felt like it was going to be a mess, but I have no real... connection to the original show emotionally. But I came out of this series really liking it and wanting more.
 
Here's Chris Hadfield talking about getting the stuff in his eye that Don did. I am totally convinced that they based that problem on this. (Although I did find later that they have now switched to a "no tears" solution. That's why Don didn't tear up? So why couldn't Don see out of ONE eye?) (18:38)
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I am totally convinced that they based that problem on this.

I was thinking the same exact thing when I saw that scene! Heck, it's got almost the same wording he used in his explanation. Glad to see I wasn't the only to have caught that :)

Btw, I heard Chris Hadfield speak in person a few years ago, and he told the audience that story. Quite chilling to hear it in person.
 
I get why it went the way it went but I think that they lost something with the Robot in the middle and they were never able to really bring it back. I never would have thought that in a show where all of the relationships and characters were so well done that the crucial story would really be an 11 year old and his Robot. We usually hate that kind of thing, don't we?
By showing it thinking of itself as part of the family in the "We're the Robinsons" scene along with its childlike understanding and discovery of the world that those scenes were hard to watch and the end didn't fully reset it back. In addition to just the general betrayal to betray innocent and trusting ones like Will and the Robot made it even worse though it didn't cement just how self-serving Smith really is.
 
I dunno. There's that kind of bizarre "science" in it that doesn't make sense, and then there's the dedication to science like the Hawking Radiation indicating a black hole.
I didn't buy that as good science.

Black hole of stellar masses produce very little in the way of Hawking radiation, the charged particle component of which would largely be indistinguishable from background radiation from the local star and galaxy after being deflected in the stellar wind's interplanetary magnetic field. In any case, the Hawking radiation from a solar-mass black hole is a tiny 9x10^-27 watts (0.009 yoctowatts; there isn't a small enough SI metric prefix for it!). Now think about the power emitted by your typical incandescent light bulb of 100 watts and try imagining it shining at the distance of 1 astronomical unit and attempting to distinguish its feeble output from that of a star.

Counter-intuitively, the power of Hawking radiation goes as the inverse square of the black hole mass. A black hole with the mass of Jupiter (with about one-thousandth of the sun's mass) would emit 9x10^-21 watts (9 zeptowatts) of Hawking Radiation. Only black holes with the mass of our Moon or smaller can emit Hawking radiation faster than the radiation that they receive from the cosmic radiation background (for the current age of the universe). Most black holes with significant enough mass to deflect planetary bodies are therefore indeed effectively black.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation#A_crude_analytic_estimate

ETA: However, a stellar mass black hole could pull material off its companion star. It would likely have an accretion disk and even exhibit axial polar jets of accelerated charged particles - those have nothing to do with Hawking radiation, of course.
 
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