NCC-1701 USS Enterprise Deck by Deck - WIP

[MGagen]

I think you may have missed the point that Havoc92 is basing his project primarily on the Franz Joseph blueprints...

And he's doing a wonderful job at it.

 

[havoc92]

Congrats! I have 2012, but I'll need to opt for the subscription once I do upgrade as I don't have the 4K to hand over to them now. I was moronic and opted NOT to get their yearly subscription plan for permanent licenses. 2012 does nearly everything I want, though, so I'm not in any particular hurry.

I need to go back through this thread. What I see in the last couple of pages astounds me.

Don't feel bad. After spending 4k for the package, I couldn't afford the subscription plan myself. Too much going out at the time. Though I will have to see if I can add it to my license as it's been so recent a purchase.

And thank you for that last bit. I slaved away for a long time pulling my hair out on how I was going to fit that bloody telescope in and make it look stylistically proper.

 

[havoc92]

If we don't hear from you anymore, you probably died of hunger

LOL. Well, I haven't exactly starved; but I did lose a bit of weight. I started doing some medical stuff at about the same time I did the upgrade and it put me on a largely liquid diet which I'm still on. Not to worry, nothing incredibly major or worrisome. Just annoying.

 

[havoc92]

Extremely fun project here. Its a little old and outdated compared to the modern material on the web to use. As someone with a very good background in drafting and design, I have to weigh in here.
The first issues are in the saucer. Using all existing plans based on the original models, you are missing the correct thickness in the middle of the saucer where it slims down to the actual 2 deck disk. That should actually be 3 decks thick. 2 full dimensioned decks, with a 3/4 height deck below and a 1/4 height deck above to be used as conduit routing and thruster fuel storage.
From what I have seen the only vessels that had the photon torpedo system in the TOP of the saucer was enterprise in the original "cage" pilot and the pre TOS ships with single warp nacelles.

The dorsal neck is not used to contain a warp core. Its sole purpose is a turbo lift tube, an emergency stairwell, deuterium feed lines, cargo storage, power conduits, external umbilical connections.
Even all cannon and non cannon single nacelle ships all have the dorsal connector as being storage and power conduits. Just look at the famous screen captures from when the Enterprise escapes space dock in st3.

The warp core was always a tennis ball in a tuna can shape for everything before the motion picture. The official data for Miranda/refit/ excelsior states the modern TMP and later "stick" warp core as being a completely brand new just released design.

The two triangles you see in main engineering are the top of the reactor sphere ( much like the actual prop shown in "into darkness") and contains matter/antimatter injectors and the actual dilithium crystal holder.

the D7/D7c double warp core arrangement is basically this sphere being fed by two separate warp cores similar to what was used for nx-01.
And the tennis ball design is further proven to be correct because in the final season of Star Trek Enterprise they did alternate dimension episodes where the crew ran amuck trying to take over the constitution class starship the tholians captured in the original series.
And in those episodes, the tennis ball reactor core was proven as cannon, and the three plasma conduit taps from the reactor core were shown for the first time. And they look a lot like some internal cross sections on the net.
monte jon Julio new paradigm studios blueprints show it awfully similar to what the ST Enterprise episodes show.
And there was no ejection system for the warp core pre TMP. It was built into the secondary hull. Its why the saucer separation exists. And no escape pod system either. The primary hull is the escape pod.

A lot of the build issues are from the wonderful use of combining so many different off scale blue prints form the internet. Even when looking at the original TOS film models, they had serious scale issues between them all. One comparison study showed 3/8" difference in the nacelle diameter.
I believe part of it may have been from accidental damage to the film models post series cancellation.

Also a lot of the size issue in the secondary hull seems to be from the prints shown, seem to be based off a few REFIT blue prints for the Enterprise A that currently exist online. They do look nice for internal looks, but the refit changed everything internally forward of the bulkhead contained the entrance doors to the shuttle bay.
Also it looks like you forgot to calculate the hull thickness in as a variable. Ive spent a lot of time looking at enlarged copies of the blueprints and under sufficient magnification youll see how the lines change thickness in the back half of the secondary hull.

Thanks for the commentary. This is based on the Franz Joseph prints largely. However... There is another hull waiting in
the wings. I think it says Matt Jeffries/Doug Drexler on it.

 

[havoc92]

Work has begun on Deck 4 finally. Ran into issues after importing into 2016. Had to reset xforms and
flip a lot of normals in order to straighten out the meshes; but, a couple of days of chasing that stuff and
we're on again. You can see the conference table temporarily sitting out of place. I dragged it in to
inspire a bit. There is a lot of work to do here for the moment, cutting the walls, expanding their girth,
putting in the removable panels, etc. Largely this is an issue only in the corridor. However, this has
to be done first in order to re-position the doors and ensure we have at least 32 inch clearances on the
width of each door. I'd like to have 40" but I'm not sure if the geometry is going to allow that yet.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Welcome back, havoc! I missed these updates. Looking phenomenal as usual!

 

[Mytran]

The points on that crescent-shaped corridor look lethal!
I wonder why FJ didn't just make the corridor straight, in line with the briefing room?

Great to have you back Havoc, BTW

 

[Bernard Guignard]

Welcome back

 

[havoc92]

The points on that crescent-shaped corridor look lethal!
I wonder why FJ didn't just make the corridor straight, in line with the briefing room?

Great to have you back Havoc, BTW

Yeah, I did those to plan; but, doubt that's what the plan intended. So they're gonna get rounded off lol.

 

[havoc92]

Spent last night and a good part of this morning trying to get these bloody pylons created. Still not
thoroughly happy with them; but, for now they'll have to do.

 

[Mytran]

Yeah, I did those to plan; but, doubt that's what the plan intended. So they're gonna get rounded off lol.

Depending on which plan you are using, the crescent can be more pointy or less:

Even the turbolift doors are pointy on the FASA ship, eeek!

 

[137th Gebirg]

It does appear that FJ took that into account in this area, to some degree.

 

[blssdwlf]

Glad to see you're back at it havoc92!

 

[havoc92]

Trying to get some more done this morning.

Got the supports aligned, the back wall is in.. still got some tweaking to do; but, getting there.

 

[havoc92]

Glad to see you're back at it havoc92!

Thank you.

 

[havoc92]

..a few more shots from today's progress so far

 

[Bernard Guignard]

Great work there

 

[Sans]

Has anyone asked about 3D printing parts of this?

 

[137th Gebirg]

Really loving the multi-source lighting in these renders. Looks so much like the filmed set, albeit a little on the yellowish-green side. Move it into the cooler blue colors and I think you have it.

 

[havoc92]

Closing in on finishing the conference room area. Lots of cleanup still needed when it's done; but, gettin there.