What?
Mystery Solved: Season 3 is set in the year 2411
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What?
Humor. Sarcasm. A joke.
More seriously, since they haven't revealed it then I imagine it is part of the plot and will be revealed later.
Ok, I see. It was a joke. Love you man, thanks for that <3
But now, I hope when we have that Front day that dey will show us big date on billboard. We want to know current year. Is it 2402, 2403 or 2411
Of course you want to know. That's the point of telling a story. To draw the audience along, to entice them to want to learn more. To keep them coming back. We have literally one data point and accusations of the producers being illogical has already flown about rather than waiting, and seeing.
2411's too far out, Kestra is still mentioned as living with Riker.
I'm going to shoot for 2405. We'll have to ignore the 2402 Launch date of Titan-A as it was only on social media, not onscreen. Shaw's line of 5 years of missions may be either Riker's Titan or Titan-A but I'm inclined for it to be Riker's Titan due to the line about deleting Riker's music and the line about Titan-A having a "new ship" smell or something.
So what is the 250th anniversary of Frontier Day the anniversary of? I'm going to say the 250th anniversary of the Coalition of Planets, which we see being formed in the show Enterprise around 2155.
For what it's worth I joined the Twitter thread and tweeted the above (condensed to meet tweet character limits) to Matalas and the other crew on the thread. Let's see if they go for that idea.
I'm going to shoot for 2405. We'll have to ignore the 2402 Launch date of Titan-A as it was only on social media, not onscreen. Shaw's line of 5 years of missions may be either Riker's Titan or Titan-A but I'm inclined for it to be Riker's Titan due to the line about deleting Riker's music and the line about Titan-A having a "new ship" smell or something.
So what is the 250th anniversary of Frontier Day the anniversary of? I'm going to say the 250th anniversary of the Coalition of Planets, which we see being formed in the show Enterprise around 2155.
For what it's worth I joined the Twitter thread and tweeted the above (condensed to meet tweet character limits) to Matalas and the other crew on the thread. Let's see if they go for that idea.
- Earth Starfleet founded in the mid 22nd century
- NX-01 launched 2151
- Coalition Of Planets founded around 2155
- Federation founded 2161
Hard to tell what "Frontier Day" really means, but 2/4 of these events are Earth-centric.
2401 seems a bit tight considering S1 was 2399 and we had gaps between each season.
2401 would make more sense with Riker's line about Deanna and Kestra being sick of looking at him, as Kestra would still be pretty young in 2401, as opposed to 2411.
We can only hope they make it clearer at some point, else we'll be arguing about this point until IRL 2401.
- NX-01 launched 2151
- Coalition Of Planets founded around 2155
- Federation founded 2161
Hard to tell what "Frontier Day" really means, but 2/4 of these events are Earth-centric.
2401 seems a bit tight considering S1 was 2399 and we had gaps between each season.
2401 would make more sense with Riker's line about Deanna and Kestra being sick of looking at him, as Kestra would still be pretty young in 2401, as opposed to 2411.
We can only hope they make it clearer at some point, else we'll be arguing about this point until IRL 2401.
I tried to think maybe Season 2 was in January 2401 (like a mid-schoolyear commencement for early graduates at Starfleet Academy) and Season 3 was April 2401 (the actual 250th anniversary of Broken Bow of Enterprise NX-01), but Seven of Nine's sudden entry into Starfleet and shooting to the rank of first officer in 3 months stretches plausibility a bit too much, even for Star Trek. Then again, this is the franchise that put Kelvin Kirk from cadet to captain...
Who's to say this wasn't mostly a Human celebration? Most would agree that Starfleet, even at this time, is a largely human organization.
Making it a human celebration causes more problem than solves. Earth Starfleet's 250th anniversary puts Season 3 before the past 2 seasons. The launch of Enterprise NX-01 barely fits if you assume that Seven made it to First Officer in less than 3 months, and even that is only if you put Picard Season 2 literally in January (NX-01 launched in April).
Regardless of what we've seen on-screen prior to the current batch of shows, the Federation is supposed to be made up of "over 150 member species".
The Federation Starfleet should reflect that, and kinda does now that they can do better alien makeup.
This makes the most sense to me, and seems to require the least amount of contradiction of on screen evidence so far.
I’d like to imagine that in universe there are pedants that continue to argue about the founding date of Starfleet (2130s, 2151, 2155, 2161) and one of the ’61ers was the one that decided to omit the NX-01 from the D’s conference room. Maybe one of the ’51ers wrote Riker’s holoprogram.
It is the 250th anniversary celebrating when the NX-01 went out into space and the de-facto birth of modern Starfleet, and you will hear more about it. Starfleet didn’t really solidify until the NX-01 went out – this was the first ship with a multi-species crew and its voyage was pivotal to the founding of the Federation. It was essentially the birth of Starfleet as we know it.
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Captain Jonathan Archer’s mission on the NX-01 Enterprise left Earth in 2151 and Matalas confirmed that season 3 of Picard is set in 2401 “to time with when the NX-01 launched.” As a point of clarification, Matalas said the Star Trek Log released last week on Instagram incorrectly listed the launch date of the USS Titan as 2402, it should be 2401.
https://trekmovie.com/2023/02/18/ex...prise-roots-of-mtalas-prime-and-frontier-day/
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Captain Jonathan Archer’s mission on the NX-01 Enterprise left Earth in 2151 and Matalas confirmed that season 3 of Picard is set in 2401 “to time with when the NX-01 launched.” As a point of clarification, Matalas said the Star Trek Log released last week on Instagram incorrectly listed the launch date of the USS Titan as 2402, it should be 2401.
https://trekmovie.com/2023/02/18/ex...prise-roots-of-mtalas-prime-and-frontier-day/
So basically Matalas confirmed that my post below is more or less what happened.
I will sleep easier tonight. All hail, Lord Terry.
Terry Matalas has confirmed that season 3 is indeed set in 2401, 250 years after the launch of the first NX ship, Enterprise, in 2151. Starfleet had been around before this date, but this mission in 2151 marked the birth of ‘modern Starfleet’, launching Starfleets fully envisaged service/organisation alongside the first Warp 5 capable ship. This makes sense as it would take time to build up such a massive interplanetary organisation which is capable of functioning effectively. Starfleet probably needed a few decades of development and refining from the time of the services initial conception, finding a working model which was a fully functioning autonomous quasi military and explorative structure - a model which would be acceptable and adapted by all Federation members in the future. Starfleet also probably needed warp 5 capable ships as a minimum specification in order to function effectively on a logistical level.
https://trekmovie.com/2023/02/18/ex...prise-roots-of-mtalas-prime-and-frontier-day/
https://trekmovie.com/2023/02/18/ex...prise-roots-of-mtalas-prime-and-frontier-day/
I already put a note on one of the Memory Alpha pages with the Trekmovie link notifying the editors that they need to scrub the 2411 stuff, it's 2401.
What in the galaxy happened to the Enterprises E and F for them to be decomissioned so quickly in quick succession? They could explain the end of the E by Prodigy's season finale, but why is F getting scrapped so quickly?
What in the galaxy happened to the Enterprises E and F for them to be decomissioned so quickly in quick succession? They could explain the end of the E by Prodigy's season finale, but why is F getting scrapped so quickly?
Hmmm, Memory Alpha seems to becoming a dubious source of information. I will have to start double checking everything that I read there instead of taking it as gospel. I would never have accepted the 2411 date though, it is just far too much of a time jump and the dates just do not add up.
Because Snoop Dogg is a G, and he wants to Captain a G thang.
We could have a whole novel series based around the Enterprise F, just as long as F does not stand for ‘fail’. Star Trek Online could even take on the Enterprise F story if TPTB agreed to canonise such an online storyline? The Star Trek Universe does not just need to be presented on TV and film, media such as video games could take on some of the officially sanctioned ‘spin-off’ canon? This would mean that every fan would get the chance to be the Captain of the Enterprise F in their very own head canon multiverse of official canon.
I would even play Star Trek Online again myself if they did something like this, forfeiting my stolen Del Taco shuttle and hacked account.
You should always double check anything you read on a wiki.
So, now it's 250 years since the launch of the NX-01?
Is that where everything is pointing towards what Frontier Day is celebrating?
Is that where everything is pointing towards what Frontier Day is celebrating?
It suffered catastrophic failure due to the M-39 series of AI. Unfortunately, it was so infused in the system that Starfleet opted to scrap it and launch a new ship named Enterprise.
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