Even worse than Beverly's ghost sex?
Moments on TNG that make you cringe.
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Even worse than Beverly's ghost sex?
That was hilarious, IMHO. Ymmv.
Or the booger aliens from VST?
Geordi and holo-Leah getting to first base at the end of "Booby Trap", complete with Leah giving googoo eyes. If the ship can generate emotions for glorified puppets with an impressive 9.37% margin of error in the personality simulation, why can't it reprogram itself, open the comm channel, say "moohahahaha" to the crew while turning off the artificial gravity because it's gone nuts because it's somehow angry that it can't play with a yo-yo, thusly just made over a thousand of them impromptu as a result?
Pretend the dude's the ship. Dang, now I'm thirsty for a milkshake...
Pretend the dude's the ship. Dang, now I'm thirsty for a milkshake...
It's in the running for sure.
But for some reason this made Geordi feel morally superior to Barclay and act in a sanctimonious manner towards the latter. At least Barclay tried to keep his fantasies confined to the holodeck. Geordi hit on the real Leah and got mad at her when she didn't act according to his sexual fantasies and the episode also told us flat out that Geordi was right to behave like this.
In his defense, he said to Barclay that "I fell in love in there once", referring to the holodeck, but adds that he knew when to walk away. Which was true at the time, since the events of "Galaxy's Child" were still months away.
The latter episode was one of the worst character assassination pieces on any Trek, ranking with "Let Him Who is Without Sin", "Homeward", and "Dear Doctor".
I was actually surprised that many people don't share this opinion. On a previous thread on this very episode a good number of users here defended Geordi and what he did in the story.
Interestingly, LeVar himself was quite critical, in hindsight, of the whole Geordi and Leah affair.
"#MeToo Moment": LeVar Burton Got Star Trek: Picard To Fix Geordi's TNG Mistake
I had one request: I want to rehabilitate Geordi’s canon where relationships are concerned. That little stalkerish episode with Dr. Brahms never sat well with me and I never wanted that to be his legacy: ‘He was a great engineer but he had this one #MeToo moment, and he never experienced a consequence for that.’
Perhaps it's just a generational (ah!) thing. I don't know.
The whole episode "Justice"
Having that hologram still around, making advances when it wasn't appropriate even if Leah had been single, and not simply and profusely apologizing when she discovered the holo-herself. Seemed pretty indefensible to me, and I'm not known for being woke.
Well, he repeatedly lied to her (and Guinan) too. And even gaslighted her ("I tried to hit on you?!? I just wanted to be your friend!"). I'll try to find the thread...
Edit: here
In 'Galaxy's Child', was Geordie a creep or just misunderstood?
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There was actually a thread for this:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/cringe-worthy-tng-scenes-worth-forgetting-rediculing.290641/page-2
Copying my posts from there...
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/cringe-worthy-tng-scenes-worth-forgetting-rediculing.290641/page-2
Copying my posts from there...
I remember watching that episode when it came out as a kid, and right at the moment Beverly was having one of her ghost sex orgasms, my father walked in, stared at the television for several long seconds, then stared at me with a look of confusion, horror and disgust (as if to say “what the fuuuuuck are you watching—?!”), and then promptly left the room.
So that was probably my biggest TNG cringe moment.
I'm not sure, but it's arguably so bad that story's worth mentioning thrice.
Granted, as set-pieces, the Guinan/Ro scenes do have a charm, and the actors (young and old) get through quite a lot of dodgy material and in-universe premise, but I will say this: The actor playing young Jean Luc delivers a fantastic performance as "old guy brain trapped in young kid body now having to pretend to throw tantrum like a kid" and "You're my number one Dad!". So it's not all cringe...
You can't cringe-shame that episode enough.
The part with Amanda and Riker in True Q.
Also, the entirety of the episode in which we get introduced to Barclay. *So* much second-hand embarrassment.
Also, the entirety of the episode in which we get introduced to Barclay. *So* much second-hand embarrassment.
