Fifty years from now, people will watch news clips like this and think they're from a satirical comedy series. It's just so surreal.
Mississippi church refuses to marry black couple
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Fifty years from now, people will watch news clips like this and think they're from a satirical comedy series. It's just so surreal.
So he'd rather shut down his business than sell a cake to a gay couple?
Good grief...what's the matter with people?
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There is no rhyme or reason to bigotry, other than irrational fear that manifests itself in such a way as this.
That's his right. He can refuse service to anyone he likes.
But it's a dick move for sure. And it's going to cost him business, because the best way to deal with people like this is to proclaim in a loud voice "BIGOT" for everyone to hear. He does NOT have the right to hide his bigotry in the shadows.
You can believe that all you want, but you don't get to codify it into law.
Worth repeating.For those saying that the concept of God as portrayed in the Bible is unchanging, may I recommend this book? It's an excellent little potted history of how God has led his people to grow and deepen their understanding of his will, complete with the suggestion that that process is not yet complete.
Good for the bakery standing up for what's right. We need more people like that that are willing to act on their beliefs, and not just keep quiet in this day and age.
Call it discrimination, call it in-tolerance. Those aren't necessarily bad things.
I'm going to say this straight up, the Bible is not a book of complete tolerance. If anyone thinks the Bible is a book of tolerance you are wrong. God is very clear on certain things we are not to tolerate. There is sin, and sin cannot be tolerated. Jesus loved his fellow man, but he still spoke out about sin and right and wrong, and what is not tolerable. He got nailed to the cross for what he spoke. Killed, murdered, for what he preached.
Tolerance is a teaching of man, of people that want to embrace anything, regardless of the morals or consequences. This was not the will of God. God had a specific mandate for Adam and Eve, don't eat the apple. You know what they did? Ate the apple. They/we could have had eternal peace on Earth, but man ruined that.
Now, you either don't believe in the Bible, God and all that and therefore your actions follow that path.
Or you do believe in the Bible as the word of God and all that and then your actions hopefully follow that path.
Jesus also sat with the sinners. He healed the lepers. He gave food and comfort to the unwanted.
Too bad you and those of your ilk won't follow his example.
Yes, he did and continue to do so to this day by preaching intolerance and hatred towards those who are different. By promoting ignorance of science in favor of the fiction in a book that was written by primitive man in an age before science. By using the fact that another person worships a different invisible man, or none at all, as a rationale for violence. By again using this book, that incidentally has been translated and re-translated so many times over the centuries that there's very little possibility of it bearing any resemblance to the original version, as a reason for denying rights to citizens of a secular country (Yes, the United States is secular, look at the First Amendment.)
Yes, it is man that prevents peace on Earth. The sin is not knowledge, though. The sin is ignorance.
Which translation of the Bible should I follow ? I'm torn. We really should have a council about that.
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Because some people live in fear of the Other. They excuse, they prevaricate, they justify, they handwave, they defend, but it all comes down to fear of the Other.
Like many Americans, I'm bored to tears of the mostly Jewish owned and operated press working up stories critical of Christianity in this country.
Right, so one stinking Southern hillbilly church momentarily refused to marry a black couple. The heavens fall.
Meanwhile, I should like to see if that black couple could marry in a synagogue.
*gasp*
No, they cannot. They cannot, because the rabbi will determine, as is largely their primary duty, that the bride and groom do not have Jewish ancestry in their maternal line. That they are goyim.
Oh, what about converts? It's a bit of a joke really, considering that of all major religions, conversion to Judaism could hardly be more onerous. Since neither bride nor groom is Jewish by birth, the likelihood they *both* could convert and marry in a synagogue is... to be polite. And statistically accurate. Infinitesimal.
So, the point of the story seems to be: Christian church is almost as racially inequitable as a Jewish synagogue. We're supposed to hate those bigoted Southern Christians and love them progressive Jews.
No. Regardless of what is politically palatable. Both are bigots, period.
Right, so one stinking Southern hillbilly church momentarily refused to marry a black couple. The heavens fall.
Meanwhile, I should like to see if that black couple could marry in a synagogue.
*gasp*
No, they cannot. They cannot, because the rabbi will determine, as is largely their primary duty, that the bride and groom do not have Jewish ancestry in their maternal line. That they are goyim.
Oh, what about converts? It's a bit of a joke really, considering that of all major religions, conversion to Judaism could hardly be more onerous. Since neither bride nor groom is Jewish by birth, the likelihood they *both* could convert and marry in a synagogue is... to be polite. And statistically accurate. Infinitesimal.
So, the point of the story seems to be: Christian church is almost as racially inequitable as a Jewish synagogue. We're supposed to hate those bigoted Southern Christians and love them progressive Jews.
No. Regardless of what is politically palatable. Both are bigots, period.
Well, that told them.
That's about the most nonsensical rambling that totally swings and misses at the thread that I've ever seen.
Jewish rabbis generally don't marry couples who aren't Jewish. Wow. Who would have thunk it? And that makes them bigots, too. Wow.
What I'm struggling with is how that equates to not marrying a couple who attends that church. Where the bride's father is a member. Where her uncle works. Somehow, that isn't any worse that a religious leader from another faith not marrying them. Wow.
Mad props to Talosian. That post was as effective at killing brain cells simply by being read as any potent potable. Hats off to you, sir!
The video didn't make it clear, and neither is the cake maker's website, is there any chance that the baker won't make cakes for people on their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th weddings? Will he make cakes celebrating the birth of children conceived outside of wedlock?
Because if not, this is really just a, "Gays? Yuck!" issue, and not really about the Bible. Right?
ETA: What a great shout out for Lakewood, I lived and worked there for a couple years.
Yep. "Gays? Yuck!" Again. Really disgusting, isn't it?
