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MeTV's SuperSci-Fi Saturday Night

Curiously enough, he and I met Bill Bixby in the elevator of the hotel in which we were staying in Vancouver, some years later. He was gracious and humorous. When I said, with such accute insight, "Hey, your Bill Bixby!", he said, "Oh, good! My Mother would be so proud!"

Bet he got a laugh or two of that. No Transformation, though!
 
Bet he got a laugh or two of that. No Transformation, though!
That's because you didn't make him mad. You should have said, "You're... you're Patrick Duffy."

Here is a better show about the same character than that dated (and pretentious) twaddle:

Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H.
I think I saw an episode of that and it was kind of funny. I wouldn't call The Incredible Hulk dated and pretentious twaddle, though (of course, I wouldn't call it The Incredible Hulk, either).
 
Super Sci-Fi Saturday Night watchers: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to keep your eyes peeled for days and times in any Incredible Hulk promos. This post will self-destruct in 5 seconds. Good luck, Jim.
 
Quick break.. "Nora Clavicle and the Ladies Crime Club"

Holy Anti-feminism Batman! Wow-- they really denigrated women in this show! Making them completely useless...

Holy Comprimising Positions Batman. One of the most bizarre traps...and looking at it as an adult... very, um, weird.

Holy Triple Play Batman! There were at least 3 Holy sayings this eipsode
 
Batman--a study in extremes of the past and present...

"Nora Clavicle and the Ladies' Crime Club" was THE low point of the Batman TV series. In this thread, the clear sexism in the handling of Batgirl has been explored, but William Dozier's agenda reached a fever pitch with this self-launched war on the then-early modern women's movement of the late 1960's.

In the so-called story, Nora Clavice (wasting the talents of the great Barbara Rush), women's rights advocate Nora Clavicle--thanks to the demands of the wife of Gotham City mayor Lindseed--is appointed police commissioner, unjustifiably removing Gordon from the position. O'Hara is also booted (Lindseed's duped wife takes that job) along with all male police officers--replacing them with women...carrying rolling pins, instead of night-sticks.

Clavicle claims her movement's aim is...

...to prove women can run the city better than men...much better.

...and her view of the Dynamic Duo was pure man-hating propaganda..especially after Clavicle's henchwomen warned of Batgirl's possible involvement:

with a woman helping them, they might cause trouble.

What follows is a series of idiotic stereotypes about women's world view, fears (fainting at the sight of wind-up, plastic mice), and motivations while Clavicle abuses her office to launch crimes, such as a bank robbery, and her ultimate plan to destroy Gotham (with the explosive, wind-up mice) in order to collect on a disaster insurance policy. Ahh, but along the way, the female police force cannot be bothered to stop crimes, since they are far too occupied trading recipes, putting on make-up, and not wanting to ruin a new pair of designer shoes.

Adding insult to injury, since the TV Batgirl (you know, the resident superheroine) was no model of a non-stereotyped woman, it should come as no surprise when she acts as Greenway Productions' mouthpiece in uttering the eternally shameful line with an air of absolutist belief:

"I might have known--you can't get police women to help you catch mice!"

Let's run through the Dominoed Dare-Doll's sweeping judgement of all women again:

"I might have known--you can't get police women to help you catch mice!"

Some might think the episode had to be a satire pushed to its limits, but it was not, since all characters accept the situations and dialogue as if there is truth to it all with few challenges to the stereotypes. Others might say, "but that was the 60s, and it was not as liberating to women," but that's not true, considering how forward thinking producers and writers created landmark female characters in that decade (that i've used as a contrast to the regressive Batgirl). Obviously, the treatment of women in this episode was not common to 1968 TV, but it was very much the way Dozier & writer Stanford Sherman wanted to paint their reaction to the women's movement. Dozier represented one end of an extreme--just as in current times, some producers from the opposite extreme believe beating the target over the head is the remedy to a social issue they hope to snuff out.

No excuse, no defense. A serious, downgrading mark on the series, particularly as it comes well into its run--only 7 episodes away from the finale.

Guest stars:

Actress Ginny Gan (the redhead throwing a tantrum about messing up her make-up) appeared as a woman from the opposite side of the tracks--a biker girl--in "The Wild Monkees" a 1967 episode of that series, coincidentally written by one of Batman's most prolific contributors, Stanley Ralph Ross.

Larry Gelman (bank manager) was a three time Monkees guest, in the episodes "I've Got A Little Song Here" (a send up of struggling songwriters ripped off by shady agents & movie productions), "Captain Crocodile" (the episode with the Batman parody, "Frogman & Tadpole"), and "The Christmas Show" opposite a post-Munsters Butch "Eddie Munster" Patrick.

Star Trek fans will instantly recognize the twin Gotham policewomen as the late twin sisters Alyce & Rhae Andrece, best known as the androids Alice #1 - 250 & Alice #251 - 500 in "I, Mudd"--the second appearance of Roger C. Carmel as the sort of lovable Harry Mudd. Of course, in the Bat-verse, Carmel was Colonel Gumm in Batman's Green Hornet crossover.

Next--

"The Penguin's Clean Sweep" is only distinctive as the final series appearance of Burgess Meredith as The Penguin. All other references to a lifeless Bat-fight, deadly Lygerian Fruit Flies, and one Bat-tool too many will not help describe the muddled, overused "master plan" to clean up (steal) abandoned, allegedly Fruit Fly infected money plot.

As mentioned in this thread some time ago, Bat-fans would have one last, off-series glimpse at Meredith as a squawking, very Penguin-like character (uncredited) in The Monkees' the last episode to be produced, "The Monkees Blow Their Minds," airing on march 11, 1968--three days before Batman's series finale.

Trivia: the hospital exterior was stock footage of my home city's oft-used Los Angeles County U.S.C. hospital--loosely referred to as "General Hospital" even by locals.
 
Also, re: Tonight's Wonder Woman - Saw on the COmcast description this episode is Season 2 ep. 3.... kinda random, as last week was latter part of season 3. i would love to see WW's 1st appearance of either season 1 or season 2
 
Batman: "Nora Clavicle and the Ladies' Crime Club": I think Batman said it best: "This is torture at its most bizarre and terrible." Surely the show's lowest ebb. Not bad enough that the idea of women holding any sort of power is treated as an intrinsically bad idea by the male characters, but the story unambiguously affirms their patriarchal assumptions by painting all female police officers in the worst, most stereotyped light possible. And it's offensive that the plan of woman-power champion Nora Clavicle depends entirely on women being totally ineffectual when given power. And Batgirl isn't allowed to have an opinion about any of this, just obediently tagging along with Batman and praising him on his superior mobile Bat-equipment.

On top of which, Barbara Rush just isn't all that impressive as a Bat-villain. Even with a different story, she wouldn't have left much of an impression. Although her henchwomen did. I am amused by the idea that these two statuesque blondes in golden Romanesque gowns believed they could go unrecognized just by putting domino masks on. (Speaking of striking pairs of women, note Rhea and Alyce Andrece from Star Trek's "I, Mudd" as the twin policewomen.)

The whole Pied Piper bit at the end was weird... I'm not sure whether I like it or not. I generally don't like the way the third season tended to get a bit too blatantly sitcommy, and this sequence was just a bit too goofy. I guess they had to do something instead of a Bat-fight, given that there were no male villains to beat up. (This and "Zelda the Great"/"A Death Worse Than Fate," both with female villains, are the only ones without Bat-fights.)

The "Siamese knot" sequence is kind of fun, though, a clever and offbeat idea. Although I'm pretty sure I saw Adam West cop a feel of Yvonne Craig when they slipped out of the knot.

And why would Penguin call the Commissioner to warn him in advance of his next plot? That makes less sense than most of their preview tags this season. But it leads to...

"Penguin's Clean Sweep": Maybe it's just the sheer relief of "Nora Clavicle" being over, but this was a delight. A really clever and suitably malicious scheme for Pengy, contaminating Gotham's money so people will throw it out and let him sweep it up. Good countermoves by Bruce/Batman, a nice battle of wits between the two sides jockeying to get ahead of each other's plans. And I loved the "buy a country" routine, and the suggestion that the World League of Nations would've readily sold him one if his money had been good. Sure, maybe a bit more blatantly comedic in the way I was just complaining about, but this routine is funny enough that I'm okay with it. (Although I wish the makeup artists had considered how red-faced Meredith would get shouting into the phone, and made up his nose appliance to match.)

And though Batgirl gets taken out way too easily by the Pengoons (I realized today that they should be called that) in their first confrontation, she got to be pretty aggressive against the Penguin in the climactic Bat-fight, kicking him in the face and smashing a box over his head, and to be pretty active in taking on the other goons too. The powers that be may have limited her to kicking and smashing things over heads, but she used her limited repertoire quite potently here.

Oh, and this episode has a Star Trek guest too, Charles Dierkopf as one of the Pengoons. He would go on to be in another cinematic gang, playing a bit role in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Ironically, he looked enormously more like the real Butch Cassidy than Paul Newman did.


Wonder Woman: This is odd. They're skipping the 2-parters "The Boy Who Knew Her Secret" and "The Phantom of the Roller Coaster." Tonight they showed the last episode filmed, "The Man Who Could Not Die," and next week they're starting the first season over again (though skipping the pilot again). So I guess this is the last WW episode I'll be reviewing, unless I decide to rent the discs of the remaining episodes from Netflix. (Wasn't there one other episode back in season 2 that they skipped?)

The plot wasn't great. A guy is made invulnerable and immortal and he just whines about what a curse it is? Just because he doesn't need to eat, that doesn't mean he can't do it for enjoyment. And not needing to sleep could give you plenty of extra time to read, learn, listen to music, do all sorts of stuff. (Sure... "stuff." Did Diana get a tempted look on her face when he said "Anything I can do, I can do forever?" When he started to talk about how boring his nights were, I expected that conversation to go in another direction...) It seemed they were setting him up as a new partner for Wonder Woman for a fourth season, or possibly a backdoor-pilot spinoff character. But with the jerky male-chauvinist boss and the con-artist kid and the chimp as parts of the ensemble, I'm very glad this was the last episode they made. I never thought I'd miss IRAC.

I wonder why Wonder Woman wore her cape in that one scene. Last time she randomly spun up her cape, it was because the stunt performer was doing a climbing stunt and they needed to hide the safety harness. Here it was just a jump. Maybe they just thought the cape made it look cooler?

So anyway, I guess that's it for Wonder Woman. And I'm very relieved. Only my sense of completism compelled me to keep watching. This season had a few decent episodes in it, but all in all, this wasn't a very good show, and Lynda Carter wasn't that great an actress or that appealing a screen presence aside from her looks. The first season wasn't bad, and was the only reasonably faithful comics adaptation we got on TV in the '70s except for the Doctor Strange pilot. But it lost its identity under Bruce Lansbury's tenure and became too much a generic action show, with only a few moments of interest.
 
I think Batman said it best: "This is torture at its most bizarre and terrible."
:lol:

A really clever and suitably malicious scheme for Pengy, contaminating Gotham's money so people will throw it out and let him sweep it up.
He may have gotten the basic idea from a certain hugely popular spy film from a few years earlier.

This is odd. They're skipping the 2-parters "The Boy Who Knew Her Secret" and "The Phantom of the Roller Coaster." Tonight they showed the last episode filmed, "The Man Who Could Not Die," and next week they're starting the first season over again (though skipping the pilot again).
I wonder if their odd scheduling has anything to do with making room for TIH in a few weeks? According to the airdate order listed on IMDb, "The Phantom of the Roller Coaster" was actually the last two episodes aired, and I think that's the order they used on Me last time around. Though it seems like they should still have had room for one of the two-parters.

Speaking of, any new info about TIH from promos?

and was the only reasonably faithful comics adaptation we got on TV in the '70s except for the Doctor Strange pilot.
You say that with more certainty this time...did you watch it?
 
And Batgirl isn't allowed to have an opinion about any of this, just obediently tagging along with Batman and praising him on his superior mobile Bat-equipment.

She had an opinion alright...tearing down female police officers as noted earlier:

"I might have known--you can't get police women to help you catch mice!"


And though Batgirl gets taken out way too easily by the Pengoons (I realized today that they should be called that) in their first confrontation, she got to be pretty aggressive against the Penguin in the climactic Bat-fight, kicking him in the face and smashing a box over his head, and to be pretty active in taking on the other goons too. The powers that be may have limited her to kicking and smashing things over heads, but she used her limited repertoire quite potently here.

Potent? As noted time and again, her slow motion kicks and grabbing boxes was rendered weak by the abilities of other female heroines during that same decade
 
He may have gotten the basic idea from a certain hugely popular spy film from a few years earlier.

I'm trying to figure out what you're referring to, and all I can think of is Goldfinger. But that was more about making the gold unusable for anyone, not just making them throw it out so he could get it for himself.


I wonder if their odd scheduling has anything to do with making room for TIH in a few weeks? According to the airdate order listed on IMDb, "The Phantom of the Roller Coaster" was actually the last two episodes aired, and I think that's the order they used on Me last time around. Though it seems like they should still have had room for one of the two-parters.

The next two weeks of their schedule are up on their site, and they're cycling back around to the first two regular episodes of season 1. I don't see why they'd show those instead of a 2-parter if they just planned to yank the show.


Speaking of, any new info about TIH from promos?

Nope, just a playback of David's trademark line from the main titles.


You say that with more certainty this time...did you watch it?

Not yet.
 
I was referring to Goldfinger. I didn't say the plan was identical, but it involves contaminating currency to make yourself rich.
 
I missed most of the episode of Wonder Woman... did they show Diana's new IADC boss in LA? If so , he seemed kind blah...and no Lyle Waggoner or the "cute" little robot or IRAC...
 
Super Sci-Fi Saturday Night watchers: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to keep your eyes peeled for days and times in any Incredible Hulk promos. This post will self-destruct in 5 seconds. Good luck, Jim.
The email newsletter came yesterday with an announcement that the Hulk was coming-- and with no mention of days or times.

Is that the one in which they're tied in a human knot? That one made me feel "funny" even as a little kid.
I loved that. There were a handful (so to speak) of risque moments like that in the third season. There's another scene where the three of them are creeping stealthily and Batman puts his hand back to stop them and it lands on Batgirl's boob. He doesn't notice and she just glances down casually and moves on. :rommie:
 
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