Mass Effect 2

[Skywalker]

I picked Jack for the biotic shield without a second thought. She was talked up as possibly the most powerful human biotic in the galaxy, and that's the only reason Shepard recruited her. It would have seemed like a waste if she never got to do what she was recruited to do.

Samara was also a logical choice, but I had her escort Chakwas, Kelly, et al back to the Normandy. I'd rather trust them with a Justicar than with a mercenary.

 

[Ryan]

You see, I didn't trust Miranda at all. She was an apologist for Cerberus all the way through, never once questioning them.

True. But at least she's not an admitted mass murderer like Samara and Jack are.

I don't think I'd call them mass murderers, but, yeah, they've killed people. But then, the majority of teammates you recruit have. Thane's killed lots of people. Garrus has killed lots of people. Zaeed killed lots and lots of people. There's probably even a good argument that Mordin is a mass murderer. Hell, the first thing Miranda does when you meet her is kill Wilson on a hunch.

 

[ATimson]

I don't think I'd call them mass murderers, but, yeah, they've killed people. But then, the majority of teammates you recruit have. Thane's killed lots of people. Garrus has killed lots of people. Zaeed killed lots and lots of people.

True, but I was only talking about biotics. (Though I guess Thane is...? *shrug* The curse of not getting half your people until right before endgame. You don't remember who they are.)

Garrus is at least only going after "bad guys". Jack and Samara - and Thane and Zaeed who I also have problems with - happily killed innocents.

Hell, the first thing Miranda does when you meet her is kill Wilson on a hunch.

It was a bit more than a hunch, from what I remember...

 

[Haggis and tatties]

Unless they go the pre-render route like Uncharted - which they can't because each Shepard looks different - then that's probably the best they can do.

Heck, there are still some awkward clipping issues when people try to touch each other in the game.

Tell me about it, i have tried everything to get my femshep to touch Miranda, to touch talia, to touch jack, the only one she touched in the end was that asair daughter who then killed femship with one touch.

 

[firehawk12]

That's not quite what I meant by clipping issues.

Besides, if you have the PC version, you can have Tali hook up with Legion if you want.

 

[bullethead]

Garrus is at least only going after "bad guys". Jack and Samara - and Thane and Zaeed who I also have problems with - happily killed innocents.

When did Samara kill an innocent person? Her code obligates her to take a bullet for an innocent person; anybody she kills either committed some crime or tried to kill her. Thane is an assassin, so he kills whoever he's told to kill and no one else unless they get in the way of his mission.

 

[ATimson]

Her code obligates her to take a bullet for an innocent person; anybody she kills either committed some crime or tried to kill her.

Pay more attention to the dialogue on Ilium - you don't have to commit a crime or try to kill her, just get in her way long enough like the detective would have.

Thane is an assassin, so he kills whoever he's told to kill and no one else unless they get in the way of his mission.

Just because someone's in the way in his mission doesn't mean they deserve to die.

 

[Ryan]

Her code obligates her to take a bullet for an innocent person; anybody she kills either committed some crime or tried to kill her.

Pay more attention to the dialogue on Ilium - you don't have to commit a crime or try to kill her, just get in her way long enough like the detective would have.

The game presented it as an unusual situation. Justicars don't leave assari space and the assari don't arrest them.

 

[Reverend]

Plus I imagine wilfully obstructing a Justicar, for any reason is right up their with aiding and abetting. Though to be fair, the code allowed Samara to wait a day before continuing her investigation (even if it means shooting her way out of a holding cell) so she was hardly being difficult on purpose.

 

[firehawk12]

Her code obligates her to take a bullet for an innocent person; anybody she kills either committed some crime or tried to kill her.

Pay more attention to the dialogue on Ilium - you don't have to commit a crime or try to kill her, just get in her way long enough like the detective would have.

The game presented it as an unusual situation. Justicars don't leave assari space and the assari don't arrest them.

Given that the game is full of cameos, she mentions that she tried to kill Nihilus (the Specter who tries to recruit Shepard in the first game) and he only escaped because he put her in a situation where she had to choose between saving someone or chasing him down.

 

[Angel4576]

Was supposed to start Bioshock 2 last night, but opted for another run-through of ME2 with my Shepherd character imported back to the start of the game. An easy way of getting the 'rank up to 30 with one character' achievement. Surprised at how much is happening that I'd completely forgotten about already.

 

[bullethead]

Pay more attention to the dialogue on Ilium - you don't have to commit a crime or try to kill her, just get in her way long enough like the detective would have.

The game presented it as an unusual situation. Justicars don't leave assari space and the assari don't arrest them.

Given that the game is full of cameos, she mentions that she tried to kill Nihilus (the Specter who tries to recruit Shepard in the first game) and he only escaped because he put her in a situation where she had to choose between saving someone or chasing him down.

If you haven't noticed, Spectres tend to be dicks at times, so it's likely Nilhus did something that obligated her to do something under the Justicar code (which Samara admits is pretty black and white). Then he exploited that code to get away, probably because it was easier than trying to kill Samara and deal with being dogged out by at least the asari councilor.

 

[Reverend]

I think she caught him shooting an unarmed man, if memory serves. In Nihlus's defence, he didn't just exploit the code to get away, he did it to get away AND still have a pulse.

 

[John Clark]

Finished my second play through last night, this time as a Renegade Shep.. I thought I'd try to not get the "no one left behind" achievement, but because I wanted to hear certain conversations with a more renegade attitude, I just skipped the loyalty missions for Grunt and Zaeed. I didn't pick them for any critical roles, and everyone still made it.

I may have run into a little bit of a bug. At one point, there's an option to pick up shotgun training so I thought I'd give it a go. It knocked out my heavy weapons slot somehow. I could still pick the heavy weapon in the armoury but never got to actually carry it

 

[Base_Delta_Zero]

That sucks about the HW glitch.

So, I'm in the bar on Ilium and listening to the bachelor party dialogue and the human, salarian and turian are arguing over what the asari stripper looks like - they all think she looks like a blue version of their own species. Then the turian suggests maybe she's mindfucking them into thinking she's attractive and the human tells him to shut it, he's ruining the mood. Funny little scene.

It's also the first explaination of the asari that actually makes some sense, as opposed to them actually all being semi-to-smoking hot blue human females with funky head/back tentacles. We always see them that way because our POV is Shepherd's ... which might also point to FemShep being gay and ManShep being straight. Why else would both see the asari as attractive women, instead of men?

I'd laugh my ass off if in ME3 Liara reveals herself as she truly is an intimate moment with Shepherd and she's a writhing mass of Hentai tentacles or some shit.

 

[clint g]

I'd laugh my ass off if in ME3 Liara reveals herself as she truly is an intimate moment with Shepherd and she's a writhing mass of Hentai tentacles or some shit.

Dude, you're killing the mood

 

[firehawk12]

The theory doesn't make sense after you realize that you have a picture of Liara in your quarters/Asari show up on video advertisements.

Unless, of course, it's a genetic thing and even images of Asari conform to what you want to look at.

The other thing though, of course, is why they would appear female to human females...

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

*General Chang*

In space, all women are gay ones...

*Chang*

 

[firehawk12]

Hah, probably.

I still think it would have taken a lot more balls to make the Asari male though. Or at least more androgynous.

 

[Reverend]

True, though to be fair they'd still have to be able to bare and raise children. So if they're going to look human then the female form makes the most sense, fan service though it may be.

Of course the cynic in me knows the games wouldn't be quite as popular if the Asari didn't look they way they do. Bioware knows that blue aliens with head tentacles have a proven nerd appeal.

While we're on the subject on alien genders, was anyone else hoping to see female Turians, Krogans, Batarians etc? While there's a good and logical reason for Krogan woman to be scarce, it seams to stretch credibility a little that none of the other race's females show up. Having said that of course we did get to see Quarian males and it was nice to get an expanded look at their culture. As far as the Hanar, Volus and Elcor go, I'm not sure we'd be able to tell the difference.

By the by I'm almost done with my second run though, just a few loyalty missions away from the IFF and I'll have my Renegade save for ME3. For run number three I'm going to see just how royally I can screw things up for myself in the next game.
I plan on arranging to be the only survivor of the team save perhaps Tali, make sure the Quarians are infighting and set on taking back their homeworld with the Geth pre-warned, the Rachni dead, the genophage cure gone, Wrex dead, the Geth heretics destroyed, an all human council with ambassador git-face as leader and the collector base in the hands of Cerberus. Get out of THAT one Shepard!