I'm probably going to watch Wonder Woman again just before the sequel comes out.
Marvel films, it's time for a Black female lead
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Miles Morales was essentially created after some fans freaked out over the idea of Donald Glover playing Spider-Man. Now he’s pretty beloved and his movie is easily the best Spider-Man movie and won an Oscar. His movie is even about how anyone could be Spider-Man.
If the Sony/Marvel situation works out I’d love to see Miles in the MCU, he’s already been hinted at. They could do something like the PS4 game where Peter trains him or go the Death of Peter Parker, which won’t leave a dry eye in the theater if Aunt May is at his side when he dies.
Sony owns everything Spider-Man for film?
That probably includes Miles?
https://www.quora.com/Does-Sony-or-...s-the-new-Spider-Man-in-the-Ultimate-Universe
That probably includes Miles?
https://www.quora.com/Does-Sony-or-...s-the-new-Spider-Man-in-the-Ultimate-Universe
Don’t think I even heard of shipping til x-files.
In a love story, the two heroes are supposed to live happily ever after.
In any other type of story, the two heroes are still supposed to still end up together.
In X-Files, there are just two heroes, so it's those two together, unless you can imagine Skinner and Doggett ripping each others clothes off. OMG! Their couples name is Dogskin, which is what poors use when they can't afford lambskins.
If you have 7 heroes, like in Blake's Seven (yes, I'm counting the computer), then you got a lot of choices about who is more likely or more unlikely to pair off, especially if the censor is screaming that the whites and blacks have to be kept separated because it's the 1970s.
We didn’t have overt censorship of that kind tbh, it was all the stuffed shirts kind.
What I meant was the term ‘shipping’ or even the idea of pairing up characters who weren’t paired onscreen. We also got noromo as an opposite to shipper back then.
For me it was when I discovered Star Trek fanfiction in 2009. Just checked its origins, short for relationship, no wonder! I was baffled what it had do with boats lol
Not in a good one.
Ah fanfiction.
So many of us may now be Hugo award winners too....
Top tip. Avoid any fanfiction that starts ‘Worf and Riker we’re practicing on the Holocene when...’
Especially if Wesley is also on the featured list.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that usually, when I've been at work, I go into the breakroom to talk to others about movies. We get all excited. Star Wars. Black Panther, Die Hard whatever. But the conversation is never.. "well I just wish the main character was black. Or latino" We certainly probably wouldn't object to such things, but the excitement is not what checkboxes a role fits in, or whether or not it helps a studio fill a quota as to what it should be doing. The excitement to see a movie is about that movie, what is the premise.. what is the style of it, how hyped am I? As soon as the studios start making their agendas (even they are good agendas that provide diversity bla bla bla) down our throats in obvious ways, the actual films seem less important. I might not watch a lot of films about black culture, but that's not going to change just because the studio is demanding that they make more of them or at least more of them in genres I might watch.. I'm also not racist .. it's just not my culture, and of course there will always be those films I DO like (Coming to America is in my top ten films EVER) . Take Gillette. the razor blade company that put out a commercial during the super bowl telling men to man up, .. they were trying to use their corporate power to get involved in a social issue for god knows why.. and know they are taking an 8 BILLION dollar loss for it. People don't want agendas.. they want to watch their movie, they want to use their razors, they want to live their lives. They don't want corporate conglomerates creating strawmen of racism and sexism out there in the world before acting holier-than-thou and saying "WE know how to fix it"
What your talking about isn't about the movies but how people talk about them especially on the internet. If you and your friends are still talking about them without race coming up then that seems to be a good thing for you. If you are online you just accept other points of view and talk about the shows how yo want to. If someone says something you don't like just ignore it if you don't want pushback. Jason
my point is when I see a thread with this title I shake my head in Dismay.. not because the original poster is wrong.. we need more female characters, we need more black characters, and we need more female black characters. m,y point is that when it comes down to it.. whatever checkboxes are filled or not filled and whatever society tells us we have or that we still need, what determines whether people are excited about a movie is the movie itself,
I understand that. What I am saying is if you didn't like the subject matter you should just ignore it. I think we all be more happy if did that. Not everthing has to descend into name calling and fights. Jason
People here were calling me names.. so if I called people names (I'm not defending such actions) it was likely just a barb in responce to that. There are many people that automatically took my position here as being racist or sexist and they dismissed my point.. and even if I HAD expressed it better (which could have but it was a difficult thing to articulate) they still would have dismissed it, the same way the companies create strawmen of racist or sexist ideas that they are telling us is true
I dismissed your points on the basis that you offered nothing substantive to support them.
You don't like some things about current movies.
From that you generalize to assertions that They're Doing It Wrong.
We've all been there. Pick up some souvenir postcards and move on.
People still want good movies like you do. Good filmmaking and storytelling has nothing to do with all the political stuff that you are getting sucked into. People still want to watch moves and become so engrossed in the story that they don't notice the actors race. I agree that we are living in a very politicized age and everything seems affected by it. The problem with any film is not because a bunch of SJWs are ruining everything in Hollywood saying that every film needs more nonwhites-it's lousy scripts and weak directors. There is no reason why a new Star Trilogy with a female Luke, a black Luke, and a hispanic Han couldn't have been awesome.
yes.. I agree
Sidney would not have been the guy I would have chosen to play old Ben in 1977. My choice would have been Roscoe Lee Browne, a Shakesperian actor who possessed an amount of presence and regal bearing similar to Guiness.
No, it's not hard for you to articulate. The problem is that you are articulating a bunch of racist and sexist ideals, but you are dismayed that they are being perceived as racist and sexist.
Right, when you are watching a movie with an all white cast, you don't think about the race of the cast, but when watching a movie with a diverse cast, in other words a movie with women in non-traditional roles and racial minorities, you get annoyed because you think THAT cast was put together based on the cast's race.
I think you're starting to have articulation problems again.
This is that goofball conspiracy theory that the only reason for diversity movies and TV is to get white people who are triggered by diversity, talking about the movie or TV show on social media, isn't it? This ridiculous theory is then used by people who are against diversity as an argument against it. Like most conspiracy theories it is dumb and if there is any proof of truth, it is never presented.
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