Don’t forget ‘and read Dune and Princess of Mars’.
Marvel films, it's time for a Black female lead
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Don’t forget ‘and read Dune and Princess of Mars’.
a) They are not casting people based ONLY on their race or gender, they are also basing them on their ability to act, charisma, ability to draw an audience, etc. You know, all the normal things you cast an actor for. b) You HAVE to "overcorrect" (I don't agree with the term, but am using it for your benefit) for a period of time in order to inspire more people to cast a movie or tv show blindly, in order to change the system. You don't just go "Ok folks, no more inherent bias" and it goes away. You have to correct to change the system. As I have said before, casting directors in Hollywood have said explicitly (on the ScriptNotes podcast with John August and Craig Mazin, if you want at least one place) that if there is no call out of race, they tend to cast white. The only way you correct that is by calling out different races in your script and FORCING them to cast people of different colors or cast women.
Yes, but I'm not sure you're at a place in your life to take that in yet.
That is how it comes off but I am not him so I can't say for sure. I do think he is trying to get a opinion across but is having issues at articulating it. Maybe it is only with established stuff and not orginal stuff. I also think alot of these arguments are made by people who only watch genre stuff or they would know about the many white lead shows like Better Call Saul,The Ozarks,Jack Ryan and etc. Jason
Yes it is difficult to articulate. I don't go to a movie because of someone's race.. I go to a movie because it is entertaining, the story and themes are inspired. Sometimes I feel the casting can enhance those things I'm looking for, other times casting can seem like it's doing just the opposite, that it's only there to check off the diversity boxes. John McClane has always been a white male.. white males do exist, and despite the fact that I agree that his race and gender are not things that his character is dependant on, (like Malcolm X as a character) simply changing his race and gender seems more like something to do to actually make it an issue in today's times and doesn't help. it only adds to the pile of crap we are dealing with
We're not "dealing with a pile of crap" around this. You just have a preference.
it's a pile of crap when identity politics, gender, and race have become more important than the stories themselves. I( miss when people hyped up the effects techniques. LOL
Which doesn't happen. So...
I think your overlooking the issue that these were always part of Hollywood it's just that white people didn't notice because of the white defaut. I would agree that some of the politics are not written very subtle and even liberals can go to far into asshole mode because Trump and social media has lowered the bar when it comes to human communication but that stuff doesn't impact how people should feel about diversity. Only that people left,right and moderate need to find away to get along with each better. Jason
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then why is it making headlines? Why do threads like this exist? If the character is a black female in the comics fine, but to make a movie JUST to suit a gender demographic is usually not the right approach. If you were correct, then the tim miller thing about dark fate would not have made headlines.
An Eternal can only be deaf by choice.
They control their own molecules.
They control their own molecules.
Because reactionaries still scream and rage about this stuff.
Because it's still unusual and noteworthy. Also, it really upsets some delicate folk, and that sort of thing is a great way to drive clicks to a "news" site.
And BTW, "making headlines" does not mean that a piece of casting is "more important than the stories" - just interesting to a lot of folks today. Interesting casting always makes headlines in the entertainment business and has for many decades even when every cast announcement was a white guy or a hot female actor. Ever read sites like Variety, Hollywood Reporter, or Deadline? Ever looked at the cover of a People magazine?
I mean, you've got nothing to base your claims on here. Nothing.
I guess I should be thankful that my favorite sci fi film of the last decade did not suffer the worst of this, or even what it could have suffered. Cloud Atlas was amazing, and though it actually had white people as Koreans, men as women, and all of that that could have made headlines ("why couldn't they get a person of that race or that gender to play that role?" could have been yelled everywhere, but there WAS a reason the creators did what they did) and I'm glad the film didn't cave
So what you're saying is that the complaint you've fabricated doesn't refer to a situation exists or that has really prevented people from making movies and casting them as they thought best.
As I said, this is not an actual problem.
what I'm saying is that it is a real hot button issue right now. otherwise headlines like "Tim Miller Says ‘Terminator: Dark Fate’ Will ‘Scare the F*ck’ Out of Misogynistic Internet Trolls" would not exist
Leia is a supporting character in the new Trilogy, so there was never a chance of that happening
Isn't Gandalf basically an old hobo anyway? So there always was an old hobo on the poster.
Ok.... so why should ANYONE care if Misogynistic Internet Trolls are scared? They are... you know... misogynistic internet trolls. If they are scared, outraged, or whatever, well... good. Honest question, why do YOU see that as a problem, if those people are upset?
Well that's probably the fault of Misogynistic Internet Trolls. not Tim Miller, the studios marketing team or anyone else.
Citing this in no way supports your claim that "identity politics, gender, and race have become more important than the stories themselves."
That news and gossip organizations can construct clickbait links and headlines around sensational, exaggerated and funny statements by people in the entertainment industry has no bearing on whether or not "identity politics, gender, and race have become more important than the stories themselves." Clearly, this is not true.
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Identity politics was never an issue when 'the identity' revolved solely around white males..right? That was called real life, now when other humans are expecting/demanding/asking for a seat at the table, its an issue? There is so much white privilege coming from your posts its stinking up the room, but you are the only one who cannot smell it.
John Mclane is a fictional character and can be changed at any official creator's whim. Fictional male Shakespearean characters have been played by white females, and the acting was so good, the actors real gendar was not even an issue. In the good old days female actors did not even exist!
Have you seen the movie 'Much ado about nothing by' by Kenneth Branagh, Denzil Washington had a role and he wasn't the butler.
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