Marvel Comics: Siege

[Broccoli]

However, the moment Beppo the Super-Monkey comes back, I'm out!

Not even a Beppo/Detective Chimp crossover? That would be comic book gold!

Well, that's different, of course.

 

[Myasishchev]

""I wonder how long it shall be before Ted Kord and Max Lord are back, setting up new a Superbuddies franchise. "" You haven't been reading "Booster Gold" or "Blackest Night", apparently

Well, Beetle came back as a reanimated Black Lantern, but that doesn't count, right? And, true, I've stayed away from Blackest Night because 1)I generally hate zombies, regardless of subgenre or medium; and 2)Geoff Johns' Hallatio was beginning to get on my nerves.

Now, I do have one of the TPBs collecting the Booster Gold stuff to which you refer sitting on my shelf. Keeping in mind, of course, that my paradigmatic exposure to the characters was the Giffen/DeMatteis Justice League, it's okay, I have to say that while I wasn't wholly impressed with Johns' voices for the famous duo (there is one [1] really funny joke), it's not by any means bad, and still better than his earlier slightly tone-deaf portrayal of Ted Kord as Dan Dreiberg on Rorshach's quest. (Edit: Okay, I'm looking at Countdown to Infinite Crisis again, and it's not so bad. I also can't really figure out who wrote it. I assume it was Johns, although it might have been Rucka.)

But, regardless, the Blue and Gold story was a time travel joint, right? There's this panel at the end at Kord Omniversal but... aw, c'mon! I thought that was Jaime Reyes.

Well, hell, if they're going to bring back Kord, might as well use him as God intended and give me some more Superbuddies, even if reading I Can't Believe It's Not The Justice League alongside Countdown to Infinite Crisis and after Identity Crisis wasn't awkward enough.

 

[tcjohnson]

FYI, Giffen and DeMatties just took over writing on Booster Gold starting this month. And they have said that through the magic of time travel, starting next month Ted Kord is going to be a regular player.

 

[Myasishchev]

I am deeply, deeply conflicted.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

I felt that Bendis should have wrapped the story up in a nice little bow and said "The End", instead of trying to set up what is to come next. Thats what made the ending seem like an anti-climax to me.

As for Loki...

Spoiler: Siege: Loki one-shot

In his one-shot tie-in he made a deal with Hela that when Loki's time came, he wouldn't be bound to Hela in the afterlife, thus freeing him for his "heroic" sacrifice in Siege #4.

I still had a certain amount of empathy for him...he was literally crying about what happened.

Edit to add: I only skimmed #4 while talking to a friend, I didn't read the whole thing.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Yes I had a certain amount of empathy for Loki...he was genuinely regretful about what he'd done. He'd not foreseen the type of sheer destructive power the Void was capable of.

 

[Greg Cox]

And yeah, Bruce Wayne was a bridge too far. I forgot he didn't really die in Final Crisis, as made (abundantly) clear in the final panel (at least I think it was the final panel--I'm not digging up that crisis to make sure).

The novelization of FINAL CRISIS (due out, ahem, in July) also makes it pretty clear that Bruce did not die in the Crisis . . . .

 

[JoeZhang]

It's funny how people are expecting 'brighter' comics, I know that both DC/Marvel have talked about this but there is evidence in the output that this is the case?

For example, this week saw the release of Titans: villains for hire, a comic carrying the 'Brightest Day' branding and a story that consisted of

Spoiler: spoilers

Deathstroke and a group of c-list badguys beating the Atom (Ryan Choi) to death for 22 pages, the issue concludes with the body of Choi being stuck in a matchbox and passed around.

Now that sort of content doesn't bother me but it does not strike me as being a sign of a shift in content or direction.

 

[JoeZhang]

And yeah, Bruce Wayne was a bridge too far. I forgot he didn't really die in Final Crisis, as made (abundantly) clear in the final panel (at least I think it was the final panel--I'm not digging up that crisis to make sure).

The novelization of FINAL CRISIS (due out, ahem, in July) also makes it pretty clear that Bruce did not die in the Crisis . . . .

As did pretty much every interview with Dan Dido and Grant Morrison, I don't think they every went down the road of saying "no honest he's really dead!".

 

[Broccoli]

^ Yeah, I don't think that anyone thinks that Bruce Wayne is dead (other than some of the characters in the comics).

 

[Allyn Gibson]

^ Yeah, I don't think that anyone thinks that Bruce Wayne is dead (other than some of the characters in the comics).

Until Batman & Robin #8, everyone in the DC "present" believed that Bruce Wayne was dead. After all, Superman had a body, and it was genetically Bruce.

At this point, it's now clear in Red Robin and Batman and Robin that the Bat-family is aware that Bruce is lost in time; Tim figured it out first but couldn't prove it (hence his global quest), and now Dick has found more evidence, which he's giving to the Justice League.

I'm somewhat surprised at how big this story has become. I'm really curious about Dan Jurgens' upcoming Time Masters: The Search for Bruce Wayne series. Did Morrison have all of this planned? To read interviews, it sounds like he could go another five or six years with Batman.