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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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If this is similar to the comics, it is possible that the "big guns" lose early on, but not in a "not coming back" kind of way.

My guess it is the reverse - Steve does not want to go back into the fray because he's retired and has a son but after the b-listers get wiped out, he gets called into action. What's tricky to work out is that this is really one film spilit into two so hard to work out if they place certain beats in the first part or the second?
 
In a “gotcha” moment/ surprise the Steve Rogers teaser is actually the LAST scene for “secret invasion”

After the humongous/ multiverse battles from both movies Steven Rogers comes home to his new born child

Russo Brothers- Gotcha! You saw something we setup for two years
 
I think part of what you're missing here is there's a much, much larger audience for content attacking women than content attacking people of color. There are lots of young men (of all races) who have resentments towards women (often due to a lack of luck in dating) which can be exploited by bad actors and/or grifters out for clicks. In contrast, the racial resentment audience is smaller, and more importantly, skews older and isn't as likely to use YouTube and the like.

Oh I agree that people have more outlets for their outrage. But generally speaking if someone likes a movie or tv show that stuff goes away, at least during that short period of time they are enjoying the show. Plus their is the fact that content creators mostly focus on long standing IP shows and movies that are not very good. They can hide their bigotry behind legit criticisms for the show and movie.

I have noticed their style. If a show or movie is good they will maybe make a few small nitpicks and then focus on how much the show or movie is failing to make it's money back. Or isn't popular. Even if it's not true .For example as much I am sure they have bigotry based issues with Pluribus and Welcome to Derry, even they recognize the quality so they can't go after them like 2016 Ghostbusters or something like that.

The viewers of the shows, who are not content creators still though will watch Pluribus and Welcome to Derry and enjoy them, even find something to root for. LIke I just know lots of these types of people love the Manousos character while at the same time complain about how Carol is a Karen. With Welcome to Derry it is of course Pennywise and even Richie characters they gravitate to while no doubt still having issues with the lack of white characters who aren't bad guys on the show. Probably like the Dick Halloran character as well. But despite liking these shows and these characters you know they will still go watch content complaining about wokeness and even making comments about it as well.
 
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People have taken a shine to him.
When I'm watching shows, a lot of times names don't stick with me. I didn't get who the character was until about halfway through the series. I'd never really thought about the character beyond the context of the novels, but now I'd love to have King write Dick's backstory pre-Overview Hotel.
 
In a “gotcha” moment/ surprise the Steve Rogers teaser is actually the LAST scene for “secret invasion”
Most people didn't really seem to like Secret Invasion, so I really can't see them going back to that. And as far as I know Doomsday doesn't involve the Skrulls or Fury, so I'm sure why they would. I guess they could bring G'iah back to help deal with Doom, but with so many other more popular characters to choose from, that seems unlikely. I can't imagine they'd bring her back before Kate Bishop, Moon Knight, or She Hulk.
 
If either of them debuted today, they'd be called "Forced", "Unnecessary", "SJW" and everything else.

That's possible because they would be created in our current political world. Though I am also guessing if they were created today they might not be as interesting as they were, when they were created. Young James Cameron and Ridley Scott were in a different place in their lives than they are now.. But it's also just as likely if they are still interesting they would be embraced like Wonder Woman was in her first movie or Emily Blunt in Edge of Tomorrow. Not to mention of course the ultimate right wing loves of Sydney Sweeney and surprisingly right wingers seem to love Aubrey Plaza.
 
That's possible because they would be created in our current political world. Though I am also guessing if they were created today they might not be as interesting as they were, when they were created. Young James Cameron and Ridley Scott were in a different place in their lives than they are now.. But it's also just as likely if they are still interesting they would be embraced like Wonder Woman was in her first movie or Emily Blunt in Edge of Tomorrow. Not to mention of course the ultimate right wing loves of Sydney Sweeney and surprisingly right wingers seem to love Aubrey Plaza.

Wonder Woman: A model in a skimpy outfit who acts like a naive woman-child and is easily seduced by the first man she meets (and it the real hero of the story to boot). Wow, wonder why that worked out.

Emily Blunt: Second Banana to Tom Cruise.

Sweeney's repeated failures this year shows her Right Wing fanbase isn't enough to be Box Office success.
 
but now I'd love to have King write Dick's backstory pre-Overlook Hotel.
He already did a tiny little bit. Dick Hallorann is mentioned briefly in the novel "IT", which is why he's in "Welcome to Derry". (In an expanded role.)

Who knows, maybe he will revisit him at some point. Perhaps when he's sick of writing Holly Gibney stories. ;)
 
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