I guess I should have realized that, since it seems like the more that groups insists everyone hated something, the more the people outside of that group loved it.
Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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So I watched both Foxtastic Fours and Fant4stic. The first two are better than I remember. Casting of the FF is good. I can buy all of them as the character. As mentioned Johnny is a little too much of a 80s bad boy cliche. (yeah even in 2005) Fant4stic is an example of getting everything wrong. (Well the casting wasn’t too bad. Didn’t buy the actors playing Reed and Doom) The entire team are the same age. They go to a school for gifted people. They’re co-opted by the military. Both versions have Reed, Sue and Doom in a love triangle. And insert Doom into the FF’s origin.Rewatching the first Foxtastic Four, so I can see Jayson's Johnny in action. Right off the bat he's doing some lame Maverick shit
I thought Jessica Alba was very poorly cast as Sue. Basically the only skill she displayed in these movies was the ability to look great in her underwear. That wasn't too much of a problem in the first movie, since it didn't call on her to do much more than that (although that's a more fundamental problem in itself), but the second movie required more from her and she didn't deliver.
By contrast, I look at Vanessa Kirby looking so strong and commanding in those publicity shots and my instant reaction is "Yeah, that's Sue." (Past actresses that I thought would've been good as Sue include Jeri Ryan and Fringe's Anna Torv.)
The only casting choices that worked for me in that one were Michael B. Jordan and Reg Cathey. Nobody and nothing else about that movie was any good.
Jordan and Cathey were definitely the standouts. Was surprised to see Tim Blake Nelson in the cast, playing "Dr Harvey Allen" who was originally supposed to be the Mole Man. Instead he was generic corporate baddie #1. He must not have been on my radar when I saw it the first time.
Revisionist history. Go back and read everyone's thoughts way back then in multiple comics forums.
Everybody loved Gor, not many liked Jane Foster as Thor.
Go and read the sales numbers posted in that thread. If anyone is being a revisionist it's you.
So is anyone actually reading the Jane-Thor comics?? - Thor - Comic Vine
I'm curious to see if anyone is actually reading the Jane-Thor comic series because on comicvine I haven't seen anyone talking about her or it so I a
comicvine.gamespot.com
Crafting a good villain is harder than crafting a good hero.
Actual comics readers and not tourists?
So is anyone actually reading the Jane-Thor comics?? - Thor - Comic Vine
I'm curious to see if anyone is actually reading the Jane-Thor comic series because on comicvine I haven't seen anyone talking about her or it so I a
comicvine.gamespot.com
I did, Lady Thor reinvigorated the book and no one thought Gor was a deep character.
Go and read the sales numbers posted in that thread. If anyone is being a revisionist it's you.
So is anyone actually reading the Jane-Thor comics?? - Thor - Comic Vine
I'm curious to see if anyone is actually reading the Jane-Thor comic series because on comicvine I haven't seen anyone talking about her or it so I a
Anyone could have made up those numbers, and Comicsgaters did.
No, it's pretty easy to make the villain the real star of the show. Too often, really.
Actual comics readers and not tourists?
So is anyone actually reading the Jane-Thor comics?? - Thor - Comic Vine
I'm curious to see if anyone is actually reading the Jane-Thor comic series because on comicvine I haven't seen anyone talking about her or it so I a
Again, anyone could make up those numbers.
I tend to go more by the reviews and how journalists on sites I trust talk about stuff like that, or people on here since most of the other message boards seem to end up being overrun the idiot assholes spreading bullshit.
Based off that, and the fact that the character keeps popping up in adaptations and the comics, I had always been under the impression that she was at least semi-popular. If "everybody" really hates a character, they tend to disappear pretty quickly and are never seen again.
I'm kind of amazed how much they've brought back the Peter Parker clones, and how much they've gone back to other stuff from the Clone Sage since I was under the impression that most people weren't that fond of it.
Based off that, and the fact that the character keeps popping up in adaptations and the comics, I had always been under the impression that she was at least semi-popular. If "everybody" really hates a character, they tend to disappear pretty quickly and are never seen again.
I'm kind of amazed how much they've brought back the Peter Parker clones, and how much they've gone back to other stuff from the Clone Sage since I was under the impression that most people weren't that fond of it.
That's from the Ultimate Universe.
There is very little from the Ultimate Universe I like.
If you say so.
Nobody made up any numbers, you are just too locked up about comicsgate which wasn't even a big issue to begin with.
Nobody is complaining besides you.
Then prove me wrong and post the real numbers.
IMO it doesn't matter if something is popular in the comic books though it is always nice when something lines up. The issue is whether or not works in live action. Biggest issue in this case was Portman never seemed all that invested in being in the MCU. You can tell she would rather being prestige stuff. I found her character to be okay but I did love the idea of seeing her as Thor if you were going to add the cancer stuff. She is a good actor and in theory that is something that you think would make for a good story. Sadly the movie wasted that potential and the movie tried to hard to be like the previous Thor movie and just be a flat out comedy.
I do.
Those guys in your post did.
Because folks are so used to the villain being the real star they've forgotten what it means to have a proactive engaging lead.
They never gave her much to work with, once they did she was onboard with it.
Portman is the Alec Guinness of the MCU, with the big difference being that her career is still going strong and she is not going to be remember by future generations as Jane Foster.
So I finally got around to watching GoG3 a couple weeks ago, and shut if off halfway through. I just couldn't finish it. Not that it was bad, it just failed to captivate my attention.
(Also i was on Amtrak at the time so that might have something to do with it lol)
(Also i was on Amtrak at the time so that might have something to do with it lol)
Well, she was reduced to a living plot device. Again not much to work with.