Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[Christopher]

People ship absolutely any two characters, and will 100% due it if there are two attractive opposite-sex characters of roughly the same age.

Sure, there are bound to be some people whose minds would go there, but they're surely enough of a fringe group that I don't see why they're even worth bringing into the conversation. It's a really distasteful thing to bring up for no reason.

Regardless, there was fundamentally no reason for this to be Scott's movie, when you consider the point was to find a way to introduce a Kang variant into the story to build up the menace for later.

The reason was that it defied people's expectations. You think that's a bad thing, but I find that attitude a failure of imagination. I actually love the idea that this ultimate, all-powerful big bad was defeated by the last guy anyone would've taken seriously as his nemesis. Indeed, that was part of the point of the story, that Kang never imagined that of all the Avengers, Ant-Man had any chance of taking him down, so Kang was defeated by his own inability to look beyond his preconceptions. It's right there in the title of Scott's book -- Look Out for the Little Guy. That doesn't just mean to be considerate of the little guy, it means not to underestimate him.

 

[FredH]

Funny how that works.

LTTP suggestion: It’s not the damage to his face (which he could fix); it’s the shame of having failed to avoid it in the first place. So he keeps it as a constant spur to himself to do better.

 

[DarKush]

Again rational audience embers are not living and dying on the memory of Evans in a role he discarded years ago. For Marvel Studios, all of the pieces for Wilson to become the next Cap were set in place, so there would be no doubt he was going to claim (after Wilson's personal doubts were explored in the D+ series), then make the identity his own for a future in the Marvel movies. That journey was clear to anyone actually watching the films, leaving only those with their ill agenda still arguing that anyone (in-universe) other than Wilson should be Captain America.

The journey wasn't clear to me in the MCU. I knew about Wilson as Captain America in the comics ahead of time so when Rogers gives him the shield in the MCU that made sense, albeit they skipped over Bucky who got it first in the comics. Wilson as Captain America wasn't solidified until the Disney Plus series, which was the intention, and even then, Evans spoke up to definitively declare Mackie (Wilson) as Captain America, in a noble attempt to call off the pitchforks (which were back out way ahead of Brave New World).

Within the MCU, Wilson works in the role a lot more than Bucky. I still find Bucky's new job in Thunderbolts a stretch, like a joke with no payoff. With the proper set up Wilson can carry a film, and the ingredients are there. Mackie has the acting skills, charm, and physicality, but Disney thus far hasn't done a great job of figuring out who the man behind the shield is, why he cares, and that makes it harder to care about him, especially in a climate shrieking about "DEI" this and "woke" that.

I think some of the problems bedeviling the MCU right now is timing. It took them too long to put out Brave New World and Thunderbolts. If they had put those movies out shortly after Falcon/Winter Soldier and Black Widow/Hawkeye came out, I think the cultural climate would've been different and more charitable. Ironheart is getting roasted right now, but I think the reaction in favor of it would've been stronger if it had come out when it was supposed to. The pandemic also did a number on the MCU, whatever creative missteps were also made.

 

[oktay]

Discussing rumors is a waste of time and energy. There's no way to distinguish the majority of false ones from the minority of true ones until something's officially announced, so it makes more sense just to ignore the rumor mill and wait for actual data.

You know, you've opened my eyes to this subject, I won't write about it again until I can verify such rumors, variety, etc. at least here.

 

[Jayson1]

Again rational audience embers are not living and dying on the memory of Evans in a role he discarded years ago. For Marvel Studios, all of the pieces for Wilson to become the next Cap were set in place, so there would be no doubt he was going to claim (after Wilson's personal doubts were explored in the D+ series), then make the identity his own for a future in the Marvel movies. That journey was clear to anyone actually watching the films, leaving only those with their ill agenda still arguing that anyone (in-universe) other than Wilson should be Captain America.

I feel like their was good enough reasons to go with Wilson and Bucky so to me it wasn't really a clear cut choice but also it's a choice where their is no wrong choice either. I was fine with either one taking up the mantle. As for the audience then maybe it's not about being rational but emotional. Some people are not into the world building stuff as much as others. For some it is simple as. I like this character so I want to go see a movie with the character in it as the lead. Most of the people going to watch the movies are not nerds like us who get into the stuff in more detail.

I can totally see how many fans would be like. That is not the Captain America I like. Not interested or even the more likely thought of. That looks like a okay movie but not worth going to the movie theater to see. I can just wait a month and watch it on Disney plus. I am afraid that second option is something that lots of movies have to face today. Unless you have something that really appeals to them, many people are content to wait for any movie to come to streaming.

 

[Anwar]

According to Jeff Sneider: Sadie Sink is said to be playing Mayday Parker in Spider-Man Brand New Day,


I don't know if this information is true or not. But the guy gave a lot of information about this Spider-Man movie and DC and it turned out to be false. The guy has become a total "misinformation" person on social media. The worst part is that the sites and magazines he worked for before are now the same, like Variety.

It's a waste having her play that character, the MCU Spidey movies should be about Tom's Spider-Man and not keep falling back to Tobey and Andrews' worlds.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It's a waste having her play that character, the MCU Spidey movies should be about Tom's Spider-Man and not keep falling back to Tobey and Andrews' worlds.

Are we to assume she's the daughter of Tobey or Andrew's Spider-Man?

 

[StarTrek1701]

No. No! You started the 'follow the comic'. There are so many different versions out there, now own up and 1701 up. You can't just say 'my version is correct' and that's it. Either follow up with written words instead of emoji's, or just stay out of this. We require actual conversation, not mindless blablabla.

I'd like to see a mishmash of comic stories during the Clairemont/Lee run back in the 90's.
With those comics costumes brought to life.
Sorta like how Iron Man and The Dark Knight was in 2008.
Happy now?

 

[Mage]

I'd like to see a mishmash of comic stories during the Clairemont/Lee run back in the 90's.
With those comics costumes brought to life.
Sorta like how Iron Man and The Dark Knight was in 2008.
Happy now?

Ecstatic even.

 

[Anwar]

Beh, the majority of 90s X-Men comics actually sucked. I speak as someone who actually was around then and read them. The first three issues where Claremont wanted to wrap up the Magneto storyline and just kill him permanently were good but after that it was just sensationalism.

The less said about every after the mid 90s, the better.