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MCU Blade Rumors Says the Movie May Be Scrapped (but That May Not Be the End)

The latest rumors about the MCU's Blade reboot suggest the film has been scrapped for now, but the character could appear in another project.

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[Set Harth]

Has Batman every gone toe to toe with Darkseid.

Seems like that would inevitably turn out a certain way. "Something's definitely bleeding."

 

[JD]

Spidey is primarily a street-level heroes in that most of his stories are New York based, but he's also been an Avenger, fought the Hulk, and gone on cosmic Avengers. I don't think saying a street-level hero means only being a street level hero. Has Batman ever gone toe to toe with Darkseid? There's been times when Batman outwitted Darkseid because that's what Batman does against stronger opponents.

Haven't all of Batman's encounters with Darkseid been with the Justice League? Most personal enemies either have no powers, like Joker, Riddler, or Penguin, and the ones who do have powers are lower level, like Clayface, Man-Bat, or Poison Ivy.

 

[theenglish]

Haven't all of Batman's encounters with Darkseid been with the Justice League? Most personal enemies either have no powers, like Joker, Riddler, or Penguin, and the ones who do have powers are lower level, like Clayface, Man-Bat, or Poison Ivy.

I'm not aware of a non-Justice League Batman story with Darkseid.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Guys like Spider-Man, Hawkeye, Captain America and yes, Batman work best at street level. Occasional forays into the "cosmic" are fine, especially in a team situation. But not on a regular basis. Putting them up against a cosmic foe is just a very to make them "kewl".

Agreed; as art of a group with--one would assume--supremely powered associates--a street level character can work, playing a specific role having nothing to do with going toe-to-toe with Galactus-level villains.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

I can think of two instances off the top of my head where Spider-Man and Daredevil sat the fight out.
One was in the final issue of Marvel Comics Godzilla, where Godzilla was rampaging through Manhattan and Spider-Man and Daredevil sat on a roof watching from afar while the Fantastic Four, Avengers and SHIELD tried to stop him and one made the comment that they were just street level protectors and they only swung into action when debris started raining down on the crowds below.
The second time was issue #300 of The Incredible Hulk, where the Hulk was, again, rampaging through New York and in their brief appearances, Spider-Man and Daredevil kept to rescuing civilians rather than trying to face the Hulk head on; both of them in their internal monologs saying that they would be no match for a mindless version of the Hulk.​

 

[Turtletrekker]

I can think of two instances off the top of my head where Spider-Man and Daredevil sat the fight out.
One was in the final issue of Marvel Comics Godzilla, where Godzilla was rampaging through Manhattan and Spider-Man and Daredevil sat on a roof watching from afar while the Fantastic Four, Avengers and SHEILD tried to stop him and one made the comment that they were just street level protectors and they only swung into action when debris started raining down on the crowds below.
The second time was issue #300 of The Incredible Hulk, where the Hulk was, again, rampaging through New York and in their brief appearances, Spider-Man and Daredevil kept to rescuing civilians rather than trying to face the Hulk head on; both of them in their internal monologs saying that they would be no match for a mindless version of the Hulk.​

There was a similar scene in John Byrne's first Galactus story in Fantastic Four as they watched the Avengers and the Fantastic Four take on Galactus.

 

[JD]

I just saw a new promo for Thunderbolts* that adds a new twist to the story that we haven't heard about before. Apparently The Sentry and/or The Void are introduced as "all of the Avengers rolled into one" and is apparently meant to be a one man replacement for them.
So my thinking is the bring in The Sentry as the one man Avengers team, but he turns in The Void and goes out of control and that's when she brings in the Thunderbolts* to deal with him.
Oh, and I can't remember if I've posted this on here, but if they don't make a real Wheaties box with them on it, I'm going to be pissed.

 

[Anwar]

I just saw a new promo for Thunderbolts* that adds a new twist to the story that we haven't heard about before. Apparently The Sentry and/or The Void are introduced as "all of the Avengers rolled into one" and is apparently meant to be a one man replacement for them.
So my thinking is the bring in The Sentry as the one man Avengers team, but he turns in The Void and goes out of control and that's when she brings in the Thunderbolts* to deal with him.
Oh, and I can't remember if I've posted this on here, but if they don't make a real Wheaties box with them on it, I'm going to be pissed.

I think it's that Valentina wanted to see how effective Sentry would be against other Supers, so she assembles the Thunderbolts as guinea pigs: They think they're being sent on a mission but in truth they're being sent in to get killed by Sentry in a show of his power.

 

[JD]

Oh yeah, that would make sense, and fit with what we've seen of Valentina. And it would explain why they get locked in the room with him in the scene where they meet him in the first trailer.

 

[Samurai8472]

Has Batman ever gone toe to toe with Darkseid?

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[The Nth Doctor]

Finn Jones told a recent convention audience that he wants a second chance at playing Danny Rand and prove people wrong:

"I’m very aware of the critiques of the character and my role in it. My response to that is ‘give me a f*cking chance, man. I’m here and I’m ready, and I wanna prove people wrong."​

 

[Grendelsbayne]

I mean, it's good to have a positive attitude and all, but in what world did Jones not already have a chance?

They made 2 seasons of his show, despite the reception to the first one.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I mean, it's good to have a positive attitude and all, but in what world did Jones not already have a chance?

They made 2 seasons of his show, despite the reception to the first one.

He didn't have a chance because Scott Buck was the showrunner and the writing was abominable in the first season as a result. The second season was vast improvement thanks to a new showrunner, but it was still the weakest season of all of the Netflix shows.* Danny Rand was at his best in The Defenders where the writing was the strongest**...and was more naturally paired with Luke Cage.

*I'm not counting Punisher since I have my own issues with the show and I'm willing to concede it was good on its own merits...and I never bothered with the second season.

**I will...erm, defend...that miniseries to my dying day. I loved almost everything about it.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I mean, it's good to have a positive attitude and all, but in what world did Jones not already have a chance?

They made 2 seasons of his show, despite the reception to the first one.

And that second season was so, so, so much better than the first and would have continued and probably continued to improve if Netflix hadn't pulled the plug on all Marvel properties entirely. The chemistry between Finn Jones and Mike Coulter in both Defenders and Luke Cage was off the charts.

People blaming the first season of Iron Fist on Finn Jones are completely aiming at the wrong target. The showrunner, Scott Buck, was also responsible for Marvel Television's other total disaster, The Inhumans. Buck was also responsible for the much derided final season of Dexter. It seems disingenuous at best to point the finger at Finn Jones under the circumstances.

Jones was hired while still working on Game of Thrones and literally filmed his last day on that show before getting in a plane to New York to start Iron Fist, without being given any time for physical or fight training. The entire season, with all of its baffling creative decisions, had been entirely written before he even walked on the set.

So, yeah, if we ever see the Danny Rand character again, and I would like to, I want it to be Finn Jones playing the character.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

I don't really care either way, but while it's great some of you really like and want to see more of him, he still got that second season you think was better. And he got to be in Defenders and show that chemistry with Coulter. He very clearly did have a chance. What he's asking for here is *another* chance.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I don't really care either way, but while it's great some of you really like and want to see more of him, he still got that second season you think was better. And he got to be in Defenders and show that chemistry with Coulter. He very clearly did have a chance. What he's asking for here is *another* chance.

And I believe that what he is asking is that *if* Marvel should decide to bring back that character, as they have with the characters from the Daredevil show, is that the fans give him another chance.

 

[Christopher]

People blaming the first season of Iron Fist on Finn Jones are completely aiming at the wrong target. The showrunner, Scott Buck, was also responsible for Marvel Television's other total disaster, The Inhumans. Buck was also responsible for the much derided final season of Dexter. It seems disingenuous at best to point the finger at Finn Jones under the circumstances.

The common thread of both shows, it seemed to me, was that Buck chose to treat the most privileged and entitled characters as the protagonists when they didn't really deserve to be. The Netflix Danny Rand was a spoiled brat who trained for a grave responsibility and then abandoned it when it was inconvenient to him, causing the destruction of the city he'd had a duty to protect, and yet we were still supposed to like him. Also, season 1 was way too preoccupied with the corporate intrigue of its wealthy supporting cast. As for the Inhumans, they were an oppressive royal family whose enemy was fighting to tear down the class hierarchy, but we were supposed to side with the royalists.

 

[Jayson1]

From what I understand Daredevil isn't doing so good in the ratings so I have a feeling this hope of seeing the other Netflix characters again might be dashed because of that.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Also, season 1 was way too preoccupied with the corporate intrigue of its wealthy supporting cast.

Yeah, "corporate intrigue" is not the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about the Iron Fist character or comics. Sure, he was a wealthy trust fund baby who got called out on his privilege on the regular by Luke Cage, but the inner workings of Rand Corporation were never the focus of his story. In the comics, the Meacham family were minor supporting characters at best.