And a Klingon on DS9. The forgotten Russ role in Trek.
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Anthony Hopkins, whose initials are AH, has played Adolph Hitler, whose initials are AH, and Alfred Hitchcock, whose initials are AH.
Really makes one think.
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Or, does it?
Who's to say?
Anyhoo, Evans is not going to be playing someone who isn't Steve Rogers in some variant or fashion, and ditto Downey Jr. for Tony Stark. IMHO.
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That's obvious.
Your "sidekick" theory is an actual belief among the worst of Marvel's fans--the same who are always ranting about any little change from the comics (read: some political bitching), yet conveniently forget that Wilson became Captain America in the comics.
My God I had a shit day but this made me laugh out load. Thank you for that.
Mackie definitely has what it takes to be a lead, and has already proven it.
To be sure, but the second his Wilson received the shield instead of Bucky, the hostile reactions sprang to life, questioning both character and actor as if they were somehow "unfit" for the Captain America role, without specifying exactly why they held this suspiciously vague opinion. Then there's others who make it clear why they do not like Mackie in the role and why it "belongs" to Evans (ignoring what Evans once said about the part).
Have they actually said that RDJ is playing Victor Von Doom? Or merely Doctor Doom? Because the latter is an identity that could just as easily be held by a Tony Stark as anybody. Hell, the current Ultimate Universe Doctor Doom is Reed Richards (after his entire life was messed up by yet another Reed Richards, this one from the original Ultimate Universe).
My assumption has always been that this will be a Tony Stark who has become Doom instead of Iron Man (or perhaps Doom after Iron Man, whatever). But I'm not married to the idea if that's not what happens in practice.
My assumption has always been that this will be a Tony Stark who has become Doom instead of Iron Man (or perhaps Doom after Iron Man, whatever). But I'm not married to the idea if that's not what happens in practice.
Yes.
As I noted above, it could easily be both.
This.
Stark is dead--his arc reached a natural conclusion, and it should remain that way, instead of Disney giving in to the noisy group who cannot let that character keep his place among the deceased.
I did not know that, but I don't think they made a huge deal about Hamilly voicing Bane and brought it out to everybody's attention.
Another fair point, but I believe he wasn't as well know for any of those parts before he played Tuvok as Downey is for playing Stark.
I won't be bothered at all if he isn't, it just seems strange to me that so many people don't seem to believe it's a possibility when it's by far the most obvious way to go about it. Honestly, the whole thing feels to me like one of the strangest thing I've ever encountered on here since I joined. It was the first thing I thought of the moment he was cast.
At this point I'd just be happy if people admitted it was possible, just so I don't feel like a idiot who has completely lost his mind.
Is that why they went back to reshoot CAP4 five times?
My God I had a shit day but this made me laugh out load. Thank you for that.
Mackie definitely has what it takes to be a lead, and has already proven it.
Every single test screening has been abyssmal at best and the budget is up to 300M.
I doubt the reshoots had to do with Mackie's lead potential. More likely story or pacing. More than a few great leading actors have helmed bad films.
A case of life imitating art as that is precisely one of the themes that ran through his Captain America arc in the comics.
If you're literally blaming that on one person's performance, you have no idea who movies work.
Again, throughout his career Mackie has proven he can act AND be a lead.
Could be anything, and Mackie is a fine actor but he's not a boxoffice pull.
But then most actors nowadays aren't anyways. It's more about the IP.
Yes, he is a good actor, but he's not leading man material.
We'll see.
Is Mirror Spock the same character as Spock? Are Peter-1, 2, and 3 the same character? Is the Kal-El-turned-Soviet Superman from Red Son the same character as Clark Kent?
Neither was Evans when The First Avenger opened. Hell, he probably still isn't, really.
I know Sam and Bucky both became Captain America in the comics at different times but the issues is in the movies they were used as sidekicks to Steve Rogers. Now I think that works fine when doing a tv show I really liked " Falcon and the Winter Soldier" but it's harder to get people to see them as anything else. At least with the same actors. To me some characters are harder to to replace than others. Captain America,Iron Man,Wolverine, Deadpool I think might be the hardest of them all. But if try you almost have to start from scratch as opposed to elevating a already established character.
I think we're talking Schrödinger's box office draw here. In general terms neither RDJ or Evans have box office pull, but in MCU films they absolutely do.
There's a broader question about whether anyone is guaranteed box office gold anymore, even Tom Cruise isn't guaranteed to put bums on seats, but I do think RDJ and Evans will (purely in an MCU context), whether the number of tickets that are sold the back of them returning compensates for the insane amount of money they're no doubt both being paid is another matter.
Of course maybe Avengers: Doomsday's box office doesn't really matter*, it's about reinvigorating the MCU going forward so it might be seen as something of a loss leader.
(*Obviously it matters in that they want it to be wildly successful, I just think they're smart enough to realise that given it's likely budget it could never count as a box office smash)
Also, @JD you're not crazy, or if you are I am too.
There's a broader question about whether anyone is guaranteed box office gold anymore, even Tom Cruise isn't guaranteed to put bums on seats, but I do think RDJ and Evans will (purely in an MCU context), whether the number of tickets that are sold the back of them returning compensates for the insane amount of money they're no doubt both being paid is another matter.
Of course maybe Avengers: Doomsday's box office doesn't really matter*, it's about reinvigorating the MCU going forward so it might be seen as something of a loss leader.
(*Obviously it matters in that they want it to be wildly successful, I just think they're smart enough to realise that given it's likely budget it could never count as a box office smash)
Also, @JD you're not crazy, or if you are I am too.
I think a Avenger movie, With Stark and Captain America or some kind of version of them is a pretty safe bet when it comes to being a big hit . Granted some things would be more successful to it the budgets weren't so huge but I am beginning to think people are still making money of those films anyways through money laundering.