Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[JD]

I'd say Ms. Marvel would be a better fit than Captain Marvel, given Danvers is too OP (not to mention not a great character). She could fit the kid role opened up by Peter Parker's absence (if indeed he sits at least Doomsday out). There's also Shuri, Cassie Lang, America Chavez, Jennifer Walters (She-Hulk), Valkyrie, Riri Williams, and any number of potential Asgardians and sorcerers.

Also, Pepper could be the organization's business leader (though Paltrow's willingness to return could mess with that). Finally, anytime is a good time to scour the multiverse for a Gwen Stacy Spider-Woman (Emma Stone).

The notion that Carol Danvers should be a primary Avenger in the next movie by default due to her being the only available woman is, in short, rubbish.

Cassie Lang, America Chavez, Riri Williams and Ms. Marvel are all either members of the Young Avengers or Champions in the comics, so I have a feeling if they join a team it'll be the Young Avengers or Champions.

At what point are these Young Avengers not really young anymore?

If they really don't feel comfortable with them being the Young Avengers, they could call them the Champions since that's a pretty similar team in the comics. Although there's a long history of people in their 30s playing teenagers, so it's not totally unreasonable to still use the Young Avengers name even if one or two of them are a little older.

Branding aside, is there any reason the MCU couldn't just call them Avengers, the successors to the original generation?

Of course, they would always be Young Avengers in relation to the OG Avengers, so that could justify the name.

If we're going to be getting movies with the two teams at the same time, they're going to need someway to differentiate them. I guess if they want to they could always have them move to LA and make them the West Coats Avengers.

Blade has been removed from Marvel’s 2025 calendar. Insert gif of Wesley Snipes saying he’s the only Blade.

Marvel’s ‘Blade’ Removed From Release Calendar

Marvel Studios has removed "Blade" from its schedule after Disney CEO Bob Iger said Marvel will release no more than three films a year.

bit.ly

I'm not to surprised after all of the delays and problems they've been having with it.

 

[Saul]

Blade has been removed from Marvel’s 2025 calendar. Insert gif of Wesley Snipes saying he’s the only Blade.

Marvel’s ‘Blade’ Removed From Release Calendar

Marvel Studios has removed "Blade" from its schedule after Disney CEO Bob Iger said Marvel will release no more than three films a year.

bit.ly

5 years after announcing it. How hard can it be to make a Blade movie? They couldn't come up with anything decent in all that time? Kinda ridiculous. I'll be extra annoyed if Armor Wars disappears too.

 

[theenglish]

Branding aside, is there any reason the MCU couldn't just call them Avengers, the successors to the original generation?

Of course, they would always be Young Avengers in relation to the OG Avengers, so that could justify the name.

I doubt we will ever see Young Avengers as a title. We could see New Avengers, Avengers Initiative or some of the other Avengers titles over the years.

 

[Jayson1]

I also have a feeling that if Spider-Man, who might even be to old frankly time they do such a movie then chances or they will do such a story on Dsiney-Plus. Without a A-List character I just don't see how one justifies making it one of the only 2 movies they will now do each year. I have a feeling Thunderbolts is going to have this issue. I am really looking forward to it, but the whole thing feels like it should have been a 8 episode Disney Plus show IMO.

 

[Christopher]

I doubt we will ever see Young Avengers as a title. We could see New Avengers, Avengers Initiative or some of the other Avengers titles over the years.

Avengers*.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I doubt we will ever see Young Avengers as a title. We could see New Avengers, Avengers Initiative or some of the other Avengers titles over the years.

Avengers Initiative would be a good umbrella title at least as a reference to the early MCU, and suggests they're the B-team, while the movie-level characters retain The Avengers.

I also have a feeling that if Spider-Man, who might even be to old frankly time they do such a movie then chances or they will do such a story on Dsiney-Plus

How much older would he be in-universe?

Without a A-List character I just don't see how one justifies making it one of the only 2 movies they will now do each year. I have a feeling Thunderbolts is going to have this issue. I am really looking forward to it, but the whole thing feels like it should have been a 8 episode Disney Plus show IMO.

Largely agree; Marvel is obviously hoping Thunderbolts is going to be a breakout film (dragging the Bucky fans along for the ride) that leads to it becoming an A-list concept, but i'm not certain that's in the cards. Who knows.

Disney+ would be the safe option.

 

[SarcasticVulcanSalute]

Tom Holland confirmed that he's actually gonna start filming Spider-Man (4) next summer.

“Next summer, we start shooting. Everything’s good to go—we’re nearly there,” Holland said during an appearance on The Tonight Show. “Super exciting. I can’t wait!”

 

[JD]

Nice to get official confirmation that we're getting it soon.

Avengers Initiative would be a good umbrella title at least as a reference to the early MCU, and suggests they're the B-team, while the movie-level characters retain The Avengers.

I believe Avengers: The Initiative for the series that followed the younger heroes in training after Civil War, so if they decide to go that way with characters like Kamala and Kate, then it would fit that too.

 

[Jayson1]

If it involves training then I guess that would mean the use as well of older Avengers or characters. You know I do kind of like the idea of old Avengers training youngsters and then they have to go on big final mission at the end of the movie.

 

[theenglish]

Avengers: The Initiative would certainly be a decent movie title and could follow Avengers 6 as an official Avengers movie entry. I like the idea of it having a nice mix of old and new characters. I seem to recall that was the structure of the comic with Hank Pym heading up one branch of the program. I think it was created because of the fallout of the incident that sparked Civil War, but I could be confusing my Marvel Events.

 

[theenglish]

Tom Holland confirmed that he's actually gonna start filming Spider-Man (4) next summer.

“Next summer, we start shooting. Everything’s good to go—we’re nearly there,” Holland said during an appearance on The Tonight Show. “Super exciting. I can’t wait!”

So, like the first couple of Spider-Man installments this would be out around the time as the big team-up movies.

 

[Mage]

Uhm, silly question perhaps....

Do we know if this will be a MCU Spidey movie or a Sony one? I mean, I assume MCU, right?

 

[theenglish]

So far, all the Tom Holland movies have been Sony movies AND MCU movies. It was part of their agreement for the first five films and I haven't heard anything about the next one being any different.

 

[Jayson1]

I think it will be MCU. Especially if Zendaya is in it. But it is also looking like it might involve more multi-verse stuff. Makes me wonder if Tom Holland's character will end up loving the MCU universe at the end and living in the Sony verse That would make it easy for them to do a Spiderman vs Venom movie. Maybe opens the door for Miles Morales to become the MCU Spiderman.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Avengers: The Initiative would certainly be a decent movie title and could follow Avengers 6 as an official Avengers movie entry. I like the idea of it having a nice mix of old and new characters. I seem to recall that was the structure of the comic with Hank Pym heading up one branch of the program. I think it was created because of the fallout of the incident that sparked Civil War, but I could be confusing my Marvel Events.

I think you're confusing it with Avengers Academy, but they could both be adapted to similar kinds of films/shows.

Honestly, I think Avengers Academy is probably the better title. Definitely for a show, anyway. 'The Initiative' is kind of vague and unclear, though it has more of a cinematic ring to it.

 

[Gaith]

Uhm, silly question perhaps....

Do we know if this will be a MCU Spidey movie or a Sony one? I mean, I assume MCU, right?

Holland fought for No Way Home to remain in the MCU, and he no doubt realizes that Marvel Studios' quality control is the best defense against into getting roped into one of Sony's artistic disasters. (By my count, Sony hasn't made one good live-action Spider-flick since 2012's The Amazing Spider-Man.) So yeah, I think we can assume this'll be an MCU collaboration.

 

[Mage]

So far, all the Tom Holland movies have been Sony movies AND MCU movies. It was part of their agreement for the first five films and I haven't heard anything about the next one being any different.

Let me rephrase that. There's the Sony Spiderverse movies that do not seem to be part of the MCU. And there's the MCU. I wonder if this will be a MCU based Spider-Man movie or if this movie will be more seperate from that. (Yes, I am aware there have been nods to the MCU in those movies)
Now considering it's a Tom Holland Spider-Man, it makes more sense to set it in the MCU. But with No Way Home basically cutting all bonds this Spider-Man has with any of the characters in the MCU, it could very easily be a seperate thing.

 

[Gaith]

Now considering it's a Tom Holland Spider-Man, it makes more sense to set it in the MCU. But with No Way Home basically cutting all bonds this Spider-Man has with any of the characters in the MCU, it could very easily be a separate thing.

The Avengers no longer know who Peter Parker is, but they know what Spider-Man is, and may remember that he (whatever his civilian identity) participated in the fight against Thanos. (Either way, Spider-Man would almost certainly be higher on their recruitment list than, say, Kate Bishop.) And if NYC were attacked, there's no reason Peter wouldn't show up and help.

 

[Set Harth]

Holland fought for No Way Home to remain in the MCU

I don't get it. How could NWH in any way not be in the MCU?

 

[Jayson1]

Let me rephrase that. There's the Sony Spiderverse movies that do not seem to be part of the MCU. And there's the MCU. I wonder if this will be a MCU based Spider-Man movie or if this movie will be more seperate from that. (Yes, I am aware there have been nods to the MCU in those movies)
Now considering it's a Tom Holland Spider-Man, it makes more sense to set it in the MCU. But with No Way Home basically cutting all bonds this Spider-Man has with any of the characters in the MCU, it could very easily be a seperate thing.

I think they are sort of part of the MCU. Venom was in that universe once and also we saw Micheal Keaton play his character again as well.