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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Says the guy who habitually posts nonsensical fantasies about streaming bolstering the disastrous box office for Ant-Man 3 and predicting it will help The Marvels--a film few wanted to see.

"Few wanted to see", funny that's what they said about Guardians and then Daredevil when his show was announced. That close minded attitude needs to go

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is the subject, and its a historic box office failure with a lead character who could not draw audiences back to theaters, and supporting players next to no one cared about going into the film's release.

So...just like Aquaman and how it failed it's billion dollar debut? But I don't see anyone condemning his character for it.
 
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Indeed, it is about balance.

That was the approach of Aristotle in Ethics, and seeking virtue. To simplify it quite a bit :)

And, appropriately, my calendar picture for January 2024 is "Find Balance."

Indeed, calendar, indeed.
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Ultimately, Disney is dumping all the episodes at once and that's a red flag about the potential mess ahead.
They're doing full season releases for all of the new Disney+ originals this month, so it has nothing to do with what they think of Echo.
Theatrical audiences are not going to turn out for those mediocre D+ characters. The Marvels really showed that.

And notably Miss Marvel was also a viewership failure on D+.
We've only gotten one movie so far focused on characters from the Disney+ series, so I'd say it's a bit early to condemn the whole idea of them crossing over into the movies.
The MCU is missing it's RDJ, or an actor of similar charisma to really draw in a 4-quadrant audience. Without that and characters that majority audiences care about, it will just be one fail after the next.
OK, this actually is a fair point. As much as I've enjoyed the post-Endgame movies and the new characters, there really hasn't been a big breakout character like RDJ's Iron Man.
The MCU was great for the first 10 years. I'm finding it's very public decline (and Disney's in general) more entertaining than their mediocre films themselves.

It's so fascinating to see a franchise at the top of it's game make all the wrong decisions (driven by corporate mismanagement) and devolve to the state it's in today. Even from a business analytical POV, it's been nuts.
We've only gotten two movies that didn't do well in the midst of a massive decline in movie going in general, so I'd say it's a bit early to be talking about the MCU like it's on it's death bed. I'm not ready to write it off until the downward trend in the box office in general improves, if it ever does, and the MCU movies continue to bomb. So if we see Dune Part Two, Furiosa, and Kingdom of The Planet of the Apes bring in $1Billion or close to it, and the MCU movies are still barely able to make half that, then I might believe that Marvel's box office issues are specific to it, and not just part of the overall crap box office numbers we've been seeing.
 
Damn, that's a shame. Not a surprising considering how the strikes messed up with everyone's schedules, but still a shame. I don't think we ever knew who was going to play either.
Supposedly Sentry/Robert Reynolds, at least according to Robert Kirkman. (I wonder if he'd done Void as well).
I always liked the idea more of him playing someone grounded like NIghtwing or Ted Kord, but I guess I'm thinking how I see him in real life like on Conan or whatever. He seems like such a sweet dude.
 
Ah, that's right, I think I did see the Sentry/Void rumor.

Hopefully Yuen will get another opportunity to play a different character in a future project (assuming the issue is indeed only scheduling).
 
Uh huh, because as we know a Box Office Failure (and we have yet to see how it will revive on Streaming) must mean a bad movie. As cinema history has show us...

...an anchor you only throw out to MCU films.

Everyone including its star accepts its a bomb - there is not much to talk about. Here we have attempts to construct alternative fantasy realities where it is a successful film based on streaming in outer Mongolia etc and the public is desperate for the Young Avengers.

Indeed.
 
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