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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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It's a bit confused - AIM is set up as a govt funded thinktank but at the same time Killian wants to profit from warfare ‍♂️
How else to increase demand but by use of conflict?

This is well known, even by some military service members, that war can be a very profitable business.

He might've tried to market Extremis soldiers, but his primary objectives were control, power, and recognition.
The desires of many humans.
 
How else to increase demand but by use of conflict?

This is well known, even by some military service members, that war can be a very profitable business.


The desires of many humans.

Except the story sets them up as government funded so why would it be profitable for them? There is no connection made in the story to direct revenue streams or even bigger appropriations.
 
I liked various things about the movie.

I thought the attack on Tony's house and the air rescue sequence were good action set pieces. ( Despite the house attack using that special kind of missile that somehow never manages to kill anyone. )

I liked getting a Hulkbuster preview.

I liked the comedy moments, for the most part.

I liked not being spoiled for the Trevor thing. And it helped that Kingsley was a good sport and had gone on the talk show circuit saying "I'm the villain".

On the other hand, I felt Rhodey grated a bit; I didn't think the film's attempt to sell Killian as "I am the Mandarin" landed; I found myself wishing the end battle with all the suits had been in daylight so everything was easier to see and I couldn't help thinking that sequence was about selling toys.
 
Except the story sets them up as government funded so why would it be profitable for them? There is no connection made in the story to direct revenue streams or even bigger appropriations.
It establishes them being needed.

I don't even like IM3 but I felt it was clear enough.
 
Except the story sets them up as government funded so why would it be profitable for them? There is no connection made in the story to direct revenue streams or even bigger appropriations.

Did it say they could only have one source of funding? Maybe proving their effectiveness with government funding would've helped them attract other, paying clients.

Anyway, I still prefer to think that AIM was working for Hydra, like it does in the comics. Their attempt on the President could've been intended to facilitate the adoption of Project Insight. So whatever motives Killian claimed could've just been a cover, though it's equally possible that Hydra was using him without his knowledge.
 
How is that any different from how Batman keeps fighting psychopaths who are "twisted reflections" of himself?

Not all are, though. Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler, Mr Freeze

Even iron man villains aren't. Mandarin, Ghost, Madame masque, beetle (if he counts)
 
It can be argued that part of the expected slowdown next weekend with the opening of Disney/Marvel Studios’ The Marvels stems from the studio’s inability to promote the pic properly at Comic-Cons. Even if the strike settles this weekend, it’s not clear whether the pic’s cast will be able to attend the movie’s “fan event” in Las Vegas this coming week. It would not be shocking if we see The Marvels charting one of the lowest openings for a Marvel Studios movie next weekend in November with less than $70M –lower than 2021’s The Eternals ($71.2M)— the movie not only a sequel to 2019’s Captain Marvel, but also a crossover from the Disney+ series, Ms. Marvel (and WandaVision). Presales for The Marvels are pacing behind that of Black Adam and The Flash (those respective openings at $67M and $55M).

https://deadline.com/2023/11/box-of...e-nights-at-freddys-dune-part-two-1235593150/

Another report says that the China presales are currently at 5% of Captain Marvel presales.

That sound you hear is dumper trucks of cash being backed up to the houses of Chris Evans and RDjr.
 
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These rumors keep coming back. But I need to see it to actually believe it

If The Marvels bombs in the way that it appears it might, there will be panic because shareholders will be unhappy...one way to reassure them will be to say "look people who were in our most profitable films return!"
 
Well I don't think marvels will bomb although it may not do well but I suspect it's partially due to the strike limiting advertising. However i won't jump to doom and gloom yer

It could overperform but presales are generally a fairly good indicator of performance - it would need great legs just to break even. We'll see next weekend.
 
It could overperform but presales are generally a fairly good indicator of performance - it would need great legs just to break even. We'll see next weekend.

Pre sales really are not a good indicator. Text every one you know right now and ask if they pre-buy cinema tickets. 9 out of 10 will say no. It is the biggest load of bulliest bull crap ever.
 
Pre sales really are not a good indicator. Text every one you know right now and ask if they pre-buy cinema tickets. 9 out of 10 will say no. It is the biggest load of bulliest bull crap ever.

Well we'll see next weekend - what's your prediction for US domestic opening weekend?

Given it's presales are lower than the Flash and Black Adam - you expect it to outperform both of these?
 
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