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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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I had a weird dream last night about the ending of the Black Widow movie. The movie ended, the credits rolled and we got the traditional mid credits stinger. After which the credit list rolled on for the usual many minutes (seriously, it never ceases to amaze me how many people it actually takes to make these movies). And at the end, we get to the moment where the Marvel films usually have the "Character X WILL return" message pop up.

And all that scrolled up the screen was a simple "Black Widow" until it hit the middle of the screen. At which point "HAS returned" appeared below it, and the end credits scene was set post- Endgame with a somehow still alive Natasha being rescued from Vormir by Old Man Steve Rodgers.

It's so unlikely that we'll see anything like that, and yet now that my brain has imagined it I know I'm going to somehow be disappointed when it's not a thing. Which is stupid, but there ya go.

Still, it does make me curious how they actually will end Black Widow. Set up for the next phase of the MCU somehow? A gag scene, or some kind of somber farewell send off for the character? In the Post-Endgame MCU it feels like they could go almost any way they want and keep us all guessing.
 
Xerxes82 said:
I had a weird dream last night about the ending of the Black Widow movie...
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It's so unlikely that we'll see anything like that, and yet now that my brain has imagined it I know I'm going to somehow be disappointed when it's not a thing. Which is stupid, but there ya go.
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You've just summed up my own irrational, all-too-unlikely hope for the ending right there. We can quibble over the details of the method. Steve winning an argument with the Soul Stone would be my choice of method...but anyway...

I don't dare hope for this. I just don't.
 
ScarJo is not hurting for work these days. If she's done with Black Widow, that's fine. (Of course, if she's not done, that's fine too.)
 
If she comes back, that would be a disaster. We'll never feel any emotions for any character's <spoiler> again.
 
I'm a little surprised by what he claims one of them is, I would think they would save a story of that scope for the movies.
 
Yeah, I'm definitely not buying that.

And for all of his bluster about being right about certain things should give him certain amount of grace, I still remember all of the bullshit he slung regarding about the supposedly large amount of missing Doctor Who episodes being returned. That continues to remain bitter in my mouth, so I ain't buying his bullshit now.
 
A bit part, yes, but wasn't it a deliberate set-up for a larger role, although granted that was pre-firing so things might have changed, if for no other reason because of schedules for all of those involved.
 
The Nth Doctor said:
A bit part, yes, but wasn't it a deliberate set-up for a larger role, although granted that was pre-firing so things might have changed, if for no other reason because of schedules for all of those involved.
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I feel like a lot of people assumed it was deliberate set-up for a larger role, but I never bought the idea that those original GotG were ever supposed to return. As set-up goes there was really very little there worth building on. And frankly the idea of Stallone's Stakaar leading his own movie - especially as a follow-up to Pratt's Quill - sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, imo.
 
DEWLine said:
Yeah. Adapting that one would be a multi-movie-scale project.
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Depends how they do it - could be simply the basic idea "Aliens are here undercover" and the rest could play out like the Invaders or similar without the needs for multiple here - MCU adapting ideas at only the broadest levels is not new.
 
Grendelsbayne said:
I feel like a lot of people assumed it was deliberate set-up for a larger role, but I never bought the idea that those original GotG were ever supposed to return. As set-up goes there was really very little there worth building on. And frankly the idea of Stallone's Stakaar leading his own movie - especially as a follow-up to Pratt's Quill - sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, imo.
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I agree. I always felt like there was zero chance Stallone was anything more than a cameo. The whole thing was a riff on the David Hasselhoff thing--older actors are the superstars of the GotG.
 
theenglish said:
I agree. I always felt like there was zero chance Stallone was anything more than a cameo. The whole thing was a riff on the David Hasselhoff thing--older actors are the superstars of the GotG.
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It's probably something similar to how it worked on Batman in the '60s -- a lot of big stars want to appear in the series because their kids demand that they do it. Even if it's just a cameo role.
 
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