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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Do we know yet whether MCU Captain Marvel is going to be Carol Danvers or Kamala Khan? I'm assuming Carol since it's "Captain" and not "Miss"?
 
And their commoner subjects raised for the most part in societies who have rejected the concept of royalty are supposed to rush to their king and queen coming from the moon, when only a small percentage of them deemed worthy by Afterlife or close to it like Raina and JT would even know that they were among the Inhuman people while most would be like Daisy who if not for being in SHIELD and the special insiders knowledge would have no explanation for her powers? Just someone stepping forward claiming I am your King

I'd actually be curious to see how all those Inhumans would react to Black Bolt and Co. in that situation. "We're the Royal Family of the Inhumans!" ... "Ok.. so what?" Make them earn the loyalty of the Inhumans, rather than simply inheriting it. And obviously large numbers wouldn't take to the idea at all. Sets up all kinds of potential stories and antagonists.
 
Presumably they'd be the royal family of an existing Inhuman civilization...not a small group of people running around calling themselves the royal family trying to find followers.
 
Do we know yet whether MCU Captain Marvel is going to be Carol Danvers or Kamala Khan? I'm assuming Carol since it's "Captain" and not "Miss"?

Carol is Captain Marvel, Kamala is Ms. Marvel. Carol used to be Ms., but Kamala has never been Captain (even though quite a few other people have). So it's Carol in the movie.
 
You're assuming here. Marvel could easily have the Royal Family be in some kind of stasis, or otherwise off the board, with a film being their return to the world, finding it changed, and Inhumans everywhere who have never even heard of them. Or hell, just completely cut off from the world (On the moon, perhaps? Or is that too much?) and in no position to even be aware of what's happening on AoS. There are plenty of ways they could justify the royals not appearing as of yet, if they really wanted to. They just need an inciting incident to bring them back into the fold.
You bring up some good possiblities here, these do seem like they would be the most logical explanation for the lack of the Royal Family.
I'd actually be curious to see how all those Inhumans would react to Black Bolt and Co. in that situation. "We're the Royal Family of the Inhumans!" ... "Ok.. so what?" Make them earn the loyalty of the Inhumans, rather than simply inheriting it. And obviously large numbers wouldn't take to the idea at all. Sets up all kinds of potential stories and antagonists.

Presumably they'd be the royal family of an existing Inhuman civilization...not a small group of people running around calling themselves the royal family trying to find followers.
Yeah, I'm thinking it would probably more likely that they would just invite people to Atilan, which they happen to rule over, rather than just telling them that just they're now their subjects.
 
Do we know yet whether MCU Captain Marvel is going to be Carol Danvers or Kamala Khan? I'm assuming Carol since it's "Captain" and not "Miss"?
Yeah, for a couple reasons.

One, Kamala Khan was never Captain Marvel. Second, when the announcement was made, Feige said there were many characters to hold the title Captain Marvel, but our movie is about Carol Danvers (the others were Captain Mar-Vell and Monica Rambeau, not Kamala Khan).

On a side note, she used to be "Ms. Marvel," she was never "Miss Marvel" and they deliberately used "Ms." because it was a more feminist thing to do at the time.
 
Wasn't Miss Marvel also the sometimes name for Mary Marvel, the Shazam! Captain Marvel's sister?

But Carol Danvers was certainly not Miss Marvel, always Ms. At that time it was more of a distinction, now probably not as much.
 
Second, when the announcement was made, Feige said there were many characters to hold the title Captain Marvel, but our movie is about Carol Danvers (the others were Captain Mar-Vell and Monica Rambeau, not Kamala Khan).

Also Genis-Vell, Phyla-Vell, Khn'nr, and Noh-Varr.


Wasn't Miss Marvel also the sometimes name for Mary Marvel, the Shazam! Captain Marvel's sister?

No. Mary Marvel was the superhero name of Mary Batson. Although in the '90s, she actually shared the Captain Marvel title with her brother Billy, meaning that DC has also had a female Captain Marvel.

There's never been a "Miss Marvel" in either company as far as I can tell. Entering that in Wikipedia or Google just redirects you to Ms. Marvel. Although it looks like the French use "Miss Marvel" in place of "Ms. Marvel," or at least French Wikipedia does.
 
I have wondered if their approach to introducing Captain Marvel might be similar to what they're doing with Black Panther & Spider-man. That is, instead of spending their first solo movie doing the origin story, they introduce her character as a supporting role in an Avengers movie (yes, I think Civil War is pretty much counts as an Avengers movie) then give her a solo movie afterwards.

It's quite clever really since it's a neat way of getting an audience invested in the character before their movie even comes out. and avoids some of the formulaic nature inherent in origin movies.
I gather Ant-Man didn't do as good business as some other MCU films and if 'Doctor Strange' also performs less than they might hope this approach may become their new SOP.
 
I have wondered if their approach to introducing Captain Marvel might be similar to what they're doing with Black Panther & Spider-man. That is, instead of spending their first solo movie doing the origin story, they introduce her character as a supporting role in an Avengers movie (yes, I think Civil War is pretty much counts as an Avengers movie) then give her a solo movie afterwards.

It's quite clever really since it's a neat way of getting an audience invested in the character before their movie even comes out. and avoids some of the formulaic nature inherent in origin movies.
I gather Ant-Man didn't do as good business as some other MCU films and if 'Doctor Strange' also performs less than they might hope this approach may become their new SOP.
Ant-Man did less than others better than expected and a sequel was added to the schedule
 
^From what I read, based on it's opening weekend it did middling box office overall. Not bad by any means and certainly solidly profitable in the long run, but not a runaway hit either.
Marvel (or rather Disney) likes making runaway hits and if they think they've found a way to squeeze a little extra profit by introducing a little narrative efficiency and embedded marketing into their franchise, then that's probably what they're going to go with where it's feasible.
 
So before seeing Civil war I am doing a MCU re-watch so far I have seen 2 of the films and my order was going to be CA > IM > IM2 > Thor > IH > Avenger Assemble > IM3 > Thor: Dark World > CA2 > Avengers: Age of Ultron > Ant man then to Civil war, I think that's the right order but can anybody tell me if Guardians of the Galaxy fits in anywhere or is it more of a marvel films that's more like "meanwhile in another part of the galaxy" sort of film?
 
So before seeing Civil war I am doing a MCU re-watch so far I have seen 2 of the films and my order was going to be CA > IM > IM2 > Thor > IH > Avenger Assemble > IM3 > Thor: Dark World > CA2 > Avengers: Age of Ultron > Ant man then to Civil war, I think that's the right order but can anybody tell me if Guardians of the Galaxy fits in anywhere or is it more of a marvel films that's more like "meanwhile in another part of the galaxy" sort of film?
Yep, but the whole Infinity Stone thing puts it just before Age of Ultron.
 
So before seeing Civil war I am doing a MCU re-watch so far I have seen 2 of the films and my order was going to be CA > IM > IM2 > Thor > IH > Avenger Assemble > IM3 > Thor: Dark World > CA2 > Avengers: Age of Ultron > Ant man then to Civil war, I think that's the right order but can anybody tell me if Guardians of the Galaxy fits in anywhere or is it more of a marvel films that's more like "meanwhile in another part of the galaxy" sort of film?
The only earth bound scenes that I remember is a young Star Lord in 1980s America so sometime after The First Avenger and before the flashbacks of perhaps Ant-Man but certainly Civil War. If there is a MCU historian able to put a precise age on Star Lord good luck in your search.
 
Yep, but the whole Infinity Stone thing puts it just before Age of Ultron.
I might have to remind myself what the infinity stones stuff is first as most of the films I have only ever seen once so far so my details are a little sketchy.

Honestly if I had time I would also have watched S.H.I.E.L.D in order too. :)
 
I think the best order is release order. Iron Man 2 alludes to the events of The Incredible Hulk at one point. Captain America: The First Avenger's plot works better if you've already had the idea of Asgard and alien technology seeded, and its final scene of Cap's awakening works best as a lead-in to The Avengers (or Avengers Assemble as it's known in the UK to avoid confusion with Steed and Mrs. Peel).
 
I might have to remind myself what the infinity stones stuff is first as most of the films I have only ever seen once so far so my details are a little sketchy.

Honestly if I had time I would also have watched S.H.I.E.L.D in order too. :)
Well Agents picks up right after Iron Man 3 using a product improved attempt at their Super Soldier formula.
 
I have wondered if their approach to introducing Captain Marvel might be similar to what they're doing with Black Panther & Spider-man. That is, instead of spending their first solo movie doing the origin story, they introduce her character as a supporting role in an Avengers movie (yes, I think Civil War is pretty much counts as an Avengers movie) then give her a solo movie afterwards.
I've been wondering if they might take the approach the Arrowverse did when they introduced Flash. We meet her in Infinity War, and her involvment with the whole thing leads to the incident that gives her her powers which she then starts using in her movie.
 
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