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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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JD said:
Barvel? Really? I'd like to think they're intelligent enough to know people aren't going to buy that.
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Obviously they didn't mean it seriously. They let the name "Captain Marvel" slip out and then jokingly pretended to try to cover the gaffe. It's not like they were actually trying to convince people there's a character named Barvel in the movie. But if they couldn't officially confirm it yet, and couldn't take it back, then all they could do was fall back on humor. Heck, it's not like I haven't seen that happen before -- someone making impromptu comments and forgetting what the limits were on what they could reveal, then realizing they'd let something slip and jokingly trying to hedge even though they knew it was too late. It happens.
 
That makes sense, a couple of the stories I read seemed to be treating it as a serious comment.
 
Well that's probably just the click bait engines at work. They'll report just about anything, regardless of credibility, if only to encourage people to click the link so they can correct them in the comments section.
Welcome to the internet. ;)
 
Please correct me, and I know you will, but I thought Captain Marvel was being introduced in this movie all along. This seems as revealing as it's going to have Marvel characters in it.


BTW, that you is a plural you and not any one poster. I appreciate you guys or I wouldn't bother to read/post here.
 
Marsden said:
Please correct me, and I know you will, but I thought Captain Marvel was being introduced in this movie all along. This seems as revealing as it's going to have Marvel characters in it.


BTW, that you is a plural you and not any one poster. I appreciate you guys or I wouldn't bother to read/post here.
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Nothing was confirmed about Captain Marvel in the past. It's assumed she's in it - certainly that she's in the second Infinity War movie, but we didn't know for certain (and we still technically don't, although it's much closer).
 
M.A.C.O. said:
They could get a lot of mileage out of making the Inhumans a Netflix of TV show. Flash and Legends of Tomorrow make out ok, and they have more episodes per season.

The Inhuman royal family (Black Bolt, Medusa, Crystal, Maximus, Karnack, Gorrgon, Lockjaw, Triton), Quake (whose a SHIELD agents in the comics, cartoons and the AoS show) and Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) are the only Inhumans who matter.
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In the grand scheme "its all connected", except the agent shows as some want to do the royal family would be hard to fit in. The Agents of SHIELD have already set up two grand Inhuman leaderships, first Jaiying and Afterlife living in secret and now their General in Hive busting out into the open, unless Coulson can contain that knowledge, we are proposing a third absentee leadership this time by a royalty which ignored these happenings to emerge and take over, And given the realities most of the characters would have been modern folk who's parent societies threw off royalty centuries before they are now emerging as Inhumans. A new more secretive Kingdom then Wakanda?

I think they have just let ABC have the Inhumans for however long they are interested, Netflix has the gritty street stuff with the movies getting the grand spectacles. It looks like Freeform is getting the Young Adult stuff, I was hoping before the announcement of Cloak and Dagger that Freeform could get the miniseries lighter than the Netflix fare since Agent Carter as a winter break replacement and possibly Most Wanted are out at ABC
 
Actually, the show is crystal clear that there are many Inhuman groups (in addition to those scattered among the general population). This exactly mirrors what was established in Infinity with cities such as Orolan and in Inhuman with Enilux. In the show, they specifically said that Hive caused an Inhuman Civil War and many left, including those who founded Afterlife.

Attilan was always isolationist until they ran into the Fantastic Four. Even then, they left to go to the moon to get away from humanity. It was only when outside forces forced them to interact that they became more interventionist. I don't think it's hard to fit in a hidden Inhuman society (particularly since the government has been actively trying to keep the Inhuman stuff a secret).
 
It seems a little odd to me that the Royal Family wouldn't be getting involved with all of the new Inhumans popping up. If Afterlife was aware of what happened with Daisy/Skye and Raina, then I would the Royal Family would also have ways of watching out for new Inhumans. I guess you could say that they're just staying off screen, but I would still think it would be inevitable that they would eventually run into S.H.I.E.L.D., or that S.H.I.E.L.D. would have at least heard about new Inhumans disappearing.
 
Groups of Inhumans? I don't think so just individuals who had no ideal what happened after eating a fish taco. If royalty ignored all these folks being hunted by human nations, Hive Hydra and Lash what Inhumans would accept their divine rights and royal claims and extend fealty to the absentee kings and queens
 
It's a nice thought, but at this point a Black Widow movie won't come out until at least 2020, which is about seven years too late. I still think that the best time for Widow's solo film was in 2013, in place of the very replaceable Iron Man 3.
 
Do you think we'll ever get a younger superheroes movie added to the slate? Young Avengers, The Runaways, Power Pack even? YA volume one is one of my favorite series, and I'd love to see a younger set of kids taking over now that the Avengers are, well. You know. Like they were in the comics.
 
JD said:
It seems a little odd to me that the Royal Family wouldn't be getting involved with all of the new Inhumans popping up. If Afterlife was aware of what happened with Daisy/Skye and Raina, then I would the Royal Family would also have ways of watching out for new Inhumans.
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You're assuming here. Marvel could easily have the Royal Family be in some kind of stasis, or otherwise off the board, with a film being their return to the world, finding it changed, and Inhumans everywhere who have never even heard of them. Or hell, just completely cut off from the world (On the moon, perhaps? Or is that too much?) and in no position to even be aware of what's happening on AoS. There are plenty of ways they could justify the royals not appearing as of yet, if they really wanted to. They just need an inciting incident to bring them back into the fold.
 
Xerxes82 said:
You're assuming here. Marvel could easily have the Royal Family be in some kind of stasis, or otherwise off the board, with a film being their return to the world, finding it changed, and Inhumans everywhere who have never even heard of them. Or hell, just completely cut off from the world (On the moon, perhaps? Or is that too much?) and in no position to even be aware of what's happening on AoS. There are plenty of ways they could justify the royals not appearing as of yet, if they really wanted to. They just need an inciting incident to bring them back into the fold.
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And their commoner subjects raised for the most part in societies who have rejected the concept of royalty are supposed to rush to their king and queen coming from the moon, when only a small percentage of them deemed worthy by Afterlife or close to it like Raina and JT would even know that they were among the Inhuman people while most would be like Daisy who if not for being in SHIELD and the special insiders knowledge would have no explanation for her powers? Just someone stepping forward claiming I am your King
 
Star Wolf said:
Groups of Inhumans? I don't think so just individuals who had no ideal what happened after eating a fish taco. If royalty ignored all these folks being hunted by human nations, Hive Hydra and Lash what Inhumans would accept their divine rights and royal claims and extend fealty to the absentee kings and queens
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There's some indication that there are groups other than the Afterlife people who know at least something about what they are. Raina's grandmother (?) for example told her the stories of blue angels and how special she is etc. etc. Though it's clear she was an outsider as far as Jiaying was concerned.

I'm not really familiar with the background of the Royal Family beyond what I skimmed off wikipedia last year, though I gather it had something to do with a version of Atlantis (I think Marvel has like three of them over the years.)
I can see a group of Inhumans way back when grabbing a bunch of Kree tech during the rebellion (like say, the monolith and the obelisks) and were able to establish a little bastion city state of their own, separate from the human population. Or more likely to hide from the Kree, since back then there was probably about 2 million people on the whole planet and the uplifted Inhumans probably saw them as about as significant as any of the other primate species.

Not clear on what the timescale, but going by the flashback to Hive's origin, it's probably not much more than a few hundred thousand years, since that's when homo-sapiens started looking less like apes that walked upright and more like the bald freaks with the pointy stick fixation we pretty much are today.

That's plenty of time for various schisms among the surviving Inhumans. Maybe some refused to join with the elitist "Royals" and instead chose to stay with their human brethren. Maybe some are descendants of escapees or exiles that left over the years or maybe some were not deemed "worthy" to live it up in the hidden city.

There's all kinds of possibilities.
 
JD said:
It seems a little odd to me that the Royal Family wouldn't be getting involved with all of the new Inhumans popping up. If Afterlife was aware of what happened with Daisy/Skye and Raina, then I would the Royal Family would also have ways of watching out for new Inhumans. I guess you could say that they're just staying off screen, but I would still think it would be inevitable that they would eventually run into S.H.I.E.L.D., or that S.H.I.E.L.D. would have at least heard about new Inhumans disappearing.
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Afterlife was aware of Daisy and Raina because Cal told them.
 
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