Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

Indeed.

 

Vincent D'Onofrio claims that there is already a plan in place for season 2 of Daredevil Born Again.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...wilson-fisk-disney-plus-netflix-1790211?amp=1

 

I would happily bet every penny in my bank account that the eighteen episodes announced will be split into two nine episode or three six episode seasons.

 

Liv Tyler will be returning as Betty Ross in Captain America New World Order. Makes sense, as if for whatever reason they can't get a hold of Bruce Banner, who we've seen go on unexpected extended extraterrestrial jaunts, Betty Ross is as close as they would have to an expert as to what exactly turned Sam Sterns into The Leader.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...-america-liv-tyler-betty-ross-1235361579/amp/

With Jennifer Walters rumored to appear in the movie as well, the fourth Captain America movie is shaping up to be a de facto entry in the Hulk franchise as well.

 

It is a bit odd that the best idea they could come up with for "Captain America 4" was to make "The Incredible Hulk 2"... minus the Hulk.

 

We have a drop date for Secret Invasion.

https://thedirect.com/article/marvel-secret-invasion-release-date-disney-plus-announce

Interesting timing for these announcements.

 

Well, Captain America 3 ended up being Avengers 2.5 minus Hulk and Thor...

 

Excellent news. I initially balked at the idea of the announced eighteen episodes being split into two or three seasons. However, upon further thought, that may increase the chances for Deborah Ann Woll and Elden Henson finally showing up, as a result of there not being enough room for them in the first season for whatever reason (such as my previously theorized idea about them being Blipped and the first season takes place during that period).

Just saw the Liv Tyler news and I was on my way here to report it here. Honestly, I'm rather indifferent to that news since I've always been blah about her and her Betty was one of the few things I didn't like The Incredible Hulk back when I thought it was one of the best superhero films ever.

That said, it does make sense for her to show up here considering her connections with The Leader. I just still wished she was played by Jennifer Connelly (one of the few good things about that film...).

Finally! June 21 is about where I expected it to arrive (well, anytime June), even after The Marvels was delayed. I'm really looking to watching it!

What? Has there been a barrage of controversial news as of late?!

Turnaround is fair play!

 

Liv Tyler returns as Betty Ross in Captain America 4: New World Order? Interesting, and yeah, the Leader is one of the villains, but the film--with Spellman as head writer & coming off of the momentum from The Falcon and the Winter Soldier--should not feel like Best MCU Hulk Outing 2.0 (unless Feige, et al., pull strings to take it in that direction). No matter how many years this takes place after TFATWS, Sam--and the world should still have some settling in with his earned role. That, and I want to see him mature into a far stronger leader (as a nod to the next Avengers film) by this time in his super-hero-ing.

 

I'm pretty shocked to hear about Liv Tyler coming back, I had just assumed we'd never see her again. All of the Hulk connections in New World Order are pretty surprising.

It's nice to get a solid release date for this.

 

Is this how Disney is getting around not officially having the rights to make another Hulk movie?

 

Been their game plan for a while now. Which is why I hope to see a Defenders movie.

 

They probably don't have much confidence with this new Cap and so they are adding Hulk to it.
Harrison Ford as well

 

The sucky thing is The Falcon and the Winter Soldier would have been a pretty decent Captain America 4 if they edited it down.

And had the guts to follow through and make Walker the villain.

 

Ah, yes, the pronouncements about the quality of New World Order before we even know the plot of the film!

 

Are Hulk Hogan and Kevin Nash going to be in it?

 

You mean like how there was no confidence in Winter Soldier so that's why they added Black Widow and Nick Fury to it?

 

Not really. They were just logical choices since Cap was working for SHIELD. Plus Widow had a part in the Winter Soldier story in the comic.

 

And the US President being involved in Cap story isn't a logical choice?

 

Fury and Black Widow were among the more naturally connected MCU characters appearing in a genuine Cap movie (as opposed to the circus that was the 20% good / 80% bad Civil War).