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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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Makes sense after the way Endgame ended. I wonder how big a role this will be? The CBR article say he's a co-star, which would usually mean it's a fairly big role, but I don't know if CBR was being that technical when they called him that.
 
JD said:
Makes sense after the way Endgame ended. I wonder how big a role this will be? The CBR article say he's a co-star, which would usually mean it's a fairly big role, but I don't know if CBR was being that technical when they called him that.
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CBR thinks Maria Hill is a major MCU hero so..... ;)
 
Regular MCU executive producer Victoria Alonso has said that they will not be using CGI to recreate Chadwick Boseman, and that they are still not sure what they are going to do for Black Panther 2.
I can understand wanting to wait and give people time to grieve before they start work on the next movie, but I am a little surprised they don't have a plan for how to handle it. I would think a big franchise like this would always make sure they have back up plans in place for all of their characters, in case something happened to one of their actors.
 
JD said:
Regular MCU executive producer Victoria Alonso has said that they will not be using CGI to recreate Chadwick Boseman, and that they are still not sure what they are going to do for Black Panther 2.
I can understand wanting to wait and give people time to grieve before they start work on the next movie, but I am a little surprised they don't have a plan for how to handle it. I would think a big franchise like this would always make sure they have back up plans in place for all of their characters, in case something happened to one of their actors.
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It's not like actors die in the middle of a franchise all the time. It's rare enough that planning ahead for it would be a waste of money in the vast majority of cases. And it's questionable to what extent a plan made two years ahead of time would even be guaranteed to be usable - situations change all the time.
 
JD said:
Regular MCU executive producer Victoria Alonso has said that they will not be using CGI to recreate Chadwick Boseman, and that they are still not sure what they are going to do for Black Panther 2.
I can understand wanting to wait and give people time to grieve before they start work on the next movie, but I am a little surprised they don't have a plan for how to handle it. I would think a big franchise like this would always make sure they have back up plans in place for all of their characters, in case something happened to one of their actors.
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You know its a bit annoying that, post Rogue One, everyone has to make Disney clarify about CG replacements for deceased people. Peter Cushing had been dead for over twenty years before Rogue One came out, and they got his family/estates permission (from what I remember). They obviously aren't going to consider doing a CG replacement for recently deceased people, but they keep getting asked/have to clarify that they won't be doing that.

The answer to the question "Will they replace a deceased actor with a CG duplicate" will almost certainly be a resounding "No" for anyone that dies during the making of a film/in the middle of a franchise, people don't have to keep asking.
 
kirk55555 said:
The answer to the question "Will they replace a deceased actor with a CG duplicate" will almost certainly be a resounding "No" for anyone that dies during the making of a film/in the middle of a franchise, people don't have to keep asking.
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Maybe for now, but I can see a time in the not too distant future where CGI replacement may become more common and more accepted even for the recently deceased.
 
JD said:
Regular MCU executive producer Victoria Alonso has said that they will not be using CGI to recreate Chadwick Boseman, and that they are still not sure what they are going to do for Black Panther 2.
I can understand wanting to wait and give people time to grieve before they start work on the next movie, but I am a little surprised they don't have a plan for how to handle it. I would think a big franchise like this would always make sure they have back up plans in place for all of their characters, in case something happened to one of their actors.
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Nerys Myk said:
That's a bit morbid.
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Agreed, Why would they have any sort of back up plan in the event of something as untimely as an actor's death? Moreover, if Disney/Marvel had any heart at all (....), they would cancel any Black Panther sequels, since the original intent was to have Boseman reprise the role--not replace him. Since they are not re-casting him, or using the typically awful CG (CG Tarkin and Leia said, "we're video-gamey and rubbery all at the same time!"), they have to whip up some poor, off-screen fate for him, replaced by whoever. No one watching that would be able to shove aside the fact that Disney/Marvel desperately stepped over Boseman to keep their train running.
 
theenglish said:
Maybe for now, but I can see a time in the not too distant future where CGI replacement may become more common and more accepted even for the recently deceased.
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It's already been done on occasion for stuff already in production, like with Oliver Reed in Gladiator and Nancy Marchand in The Sopranos. Probably at least a little with Carrie Fisher in The Rise of Skywalker, though mostly that was digitally compositing her real performance into new settings, changing her wardrobe and the lighting, etc. But I think for the most part it's only something filmmakers would do when they had to, when it was the only way to complete a story in progress that depended on their presence. I don't see them commissioning whole new projects around CGI doubles. More likely they'd just recast, like the Harry Potter films did with Dumbledore.
 
I didn't necessarily just mean the actor dying when I said if something happened. I just meant if had to stop for any reason, if they were unavailable, or just decided they didn't want to do it any more, or any other reason that would cause them to stop. And I didn't mean anything in depth, just a basic idea of which characters they'd recast, which they'd write out, and which they'd just stop using.
The thing that brought it to mind for me was Babylon 5, where the creator has said that when he was developing the series he came up with a "trapdoor" for each character, as a way to write them out if the actor couldn't continue. I was just thinking with something as interconnected as the MCU that they could have put together a similar plan.
 
JD said:
The thing that brought it to mind for me was Babylon 5, where the creator has said that when he was developing the series he came up with a "trapdoor" for each character, as a way to write them out if the actor couldn't continue. I was just thinking with something as interconnected as the MCU that they could have put together a similar plan.
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Sure. Any sensible plan is built with the expectation that plans will change. You may have certain key points you want to include, but they may not come in the way or in the order you originally had in mind. You move the pieces around as needed and find new ways to move toward your goals. And you often discover new possibilities along the way that you never planned on before.
 
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