Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[Captain Craig]

Well so far we have what...

Cap
Iron Man
Thor
Hulk
Black Widow
Hawkeye
War Machine
Falcon

Plus presumably, depending on events of future films,

Quicksilver
Scarlet Witch
Bucky
Daredevil
Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Jessica Jones
Ant-Man
Doctor Strange

Plus whatever they're going to do with Nick Fury, Maria Hill and the cast of Agents of SHIELD. Oh and Deathlok.

It's not a bad number, if they add more to it over the coming years. It's just a matter of sorting out the sides and figure out why some heroes would actually want themselves and their allies to be registered.

Mockingbird comes into play in another few episodes of AoS as well. Not to mention it's highly possible for the Netflix shows to also have an additional hero per show perhaps.
Misty Knight in either IF or LC is logical.
DD could have an array of possibilities for a one off.

All this said I feel it's too soon for Civil War...as we know it.
That's why I think Feige is likely using Civil War the same way he's using Age of Ultron, mostly "in name only" and shaped for the needs of the MCU as it is. Not an adaption of the story we know.

I too would like a Whedon trilogy. The Russos did a bang up job but I'd still like a Whedon Avengers trilogy!

 

[Alidar Jarok]

It's true though, like OdoWanKenobi says, it does seem too early and they're aren't enough heroes. I mean, who would be actually be on Cap's side wanting to protect their identity?

Everyone knows who Iron Man is anyway.
Cap doesn't know anyone in the present so I don't see why he'd care about his identity right now.
Hawkeye & Black Widow already worked for SHIELD.
The government obviously knows Bruce Banner is the Hulk.
Thor isn't even human so he doesn't count.
Pretty sure the Guardians of the Galaxy don't care.


So Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver then, Ant-Man maybe? And this movie is out before Doctor Strange so count him out...
I suppose the first season of Daredevil will be done with by then. Still, it's hardly a huge roster.

I'm only vaguely aware of the rumors for AoU, but it's certainly possible there's something tied to there.

In addition to Daredevil, Jessica Jones and plausibly Luke Cage (who, admittedly, don't exactly hide their names right there ) will be out.

Civil War may be the most successful Marvel crossover event. I don't think the timing's right, but there might be a bit of now or never.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Plus whatever they're going to do with Nick Fury, Maria Hill and the cast of Agents of SHIELD. Oh and Deathlok.

And possibly Blizzard, Graviton, and Absorbing Man, depending on how they end up in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

 

[Turtletrekker]

And there is all of the unknown (to us) people on SHIELD's gifted index. Coulson said it was a small list, but on a planet with 7 billion people on it, 5,000 names would still be a small list.

 

[theenglish]

Perhaps Stark's change of heart could be directly tied to a "No More Mutants" type scenario at the end of AofU or something similar? I also think that Stark's appearance in Cap3 may be in a limited capacity and used primarily to set up the conflict between the two characters we will see later on. IM4 (if it happens) could then deal with Stark promoting the powers registration act and perhaps convincing Spider-Man to join him.

What is interesting about this in terms of movies is that IM has potential to be set up as the bad guy (much as he was in Civil War) but without much possibility for RDJ to actually have a redemption following the events of the conflict. I wonder if the MCU could possibly switch the roles of Cap and IM and have IM suffer the comic book fate of Captain America at the end of the movie?

And there is all of the unknown (to us) people on SHIELD's gifted index. Coulson said it was a small list, but on a planet with 7 billion people on it, 5,000 names would still be a small list.

The origins of the registration list?

 

[DEWLine]

Did that Index get dumped onto the Web by Fury and Romanova along with everything else Fury had?

(Given how bad things had already gotten in TWS, Fury probably considered it his way of warning everyone alive and on the Index who wasn't already KIA by HYDRA to run for whatever cover they could find.)

 

[Skywalker]

And yet another contender for Doctor Strange emerges: Ewan McGregor.

Just pick someone already!

 

[The Nth Doctor]

And yet another contender for Doctor Strange emerges: Ewan McGregor.

Just pick someone already!

Now that's a solid choice right there, although I would be fine with Ethan Hawke, too.

 

[Relayer1]

Ryan Gosling now looks to be in the frame.

I don't have an issue with him as an actor, but I really don't see him as Doctor Strange...

 

[bbjeg]

Personally, out of the names they named already, Ethan Hawke sounds like the best pick. Ewan McGregor is good and all, but Hawke fits with the already established MCU IMO.

 

[One Lucky Red Shirt]

It would be interesting if IM does appear in Cap 3 and he does have a major role in the film. Sadly i havent kept up with comics since the beginning of high school and only vaguely know about civil war. Sounds good and the MCU can play it off very good. I gots faith. The ended TWS with a need to want more.

Havent seen guardians yet but planning on picking up the blu ray whenever it comes out. Marvel films so far have been very good and entertaining. They just doing a good job with most of their films.

ImO im more for an Inferno crossover. I could see the XMen films being the main focus and then just having small repercussions in all the marvel titles would be cool.

As for doctor strange yeah i can see Ethan hawke or ewan McGregor doing the role. 'Nuff said.

 

[Mr Light]

Civil War in a nutshell:

The New Warriors accidentally blow up a city of civilians and get themselves killed sparking a government crackdown on superheroes. A bill is passed forcing superheroes to unmask and register with the government. Iron Man and Mr Fantastic realize that in order to control the government taking over the superheroes they have to fight FOR the bill. Captain America leads the freedom and privacy rights resistance. Spider-Man is initially pro-reg and actually unmasks on live television revealing his secret identity, thus destroying his life and loved ones and he switches sides. After a big war with lots of casualties, Cap surrenders because he realizes he's just causing more mayhem and destruction, and on his way to the trial he gets assassinated. (of course, this being comics, he didn't stay dead for long!)

 

[The Old Mixer]

I think they could do a storyline like that without having a lot of established heroes in it. It could be more about the rights of the anonymous metahumans out there who are keeping their noses clean and want to protect their privacy. They could also tease upcoming properties without shoehorning them into the film.

 

[Rowan Sjet]

Doctor Strange Is Down To These Three Frontrunners

There was once a time when Marvel's Doctor Strange project was the more stable of the two new Phase 3 films in production, as Ant-Man had a cast but no director at the eleventh hour. While that is a rather problematic scenario to be in, it is perhaps even more of a problem when a director has been selected and there's no cast to put your film into action. This is what Scott Derrickson has to contend with at this point, with the role of Doctor Strange still vacant, but down to three big choices: Colin Farrell, Benedict Cumberbatch and Keanu Reeves.

The Wrap has the official betting odds down to three high profile names, though it was four until long time frontrunner Joaquin Phoenix was removed from the running by his representatives. The three names still in play are previously hinted contenders Keanu Reeves and Benedict Cumberbatch, as well as the newly added prospect of Colin Farrell. All three are really good choices...

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Don't care if this is true or not, it's hilariously awful.

 

[Avalon]

It's my fervent-but-naive hope that they're tossing out all these names as diversions while secretly hiring Oded Fehr.

Not gonna happen, I know, but I can dream.

(Also, I have to admit I'd watch the hell out of Keanu as Strange.)

 

[Alidar Jarok]

ImO im more for an Inferno crossover. I could see the XMen films being the main focus and then just having small repercussions in all the marvel titles would be cool.

I know everyone likes their crossover, but I know Inferno through Daredevil. From that side, it's a bit absurdist. This super realistic hero dealing with demons and stuff. To the credit of the writer at the time (Ann Nocenti) she eventually turned it into a good story of the citizens of New York city dealing with the same ol' shit (in this case, demons), but it was still an extremely surreal story and quite weird.

Anyway, it's a moot point. The X-Men are far removed from the Marvel universe and there are no signs of things changing.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

Anyway, it's a moot point. The X-Men are far removed from the Marvel universe and there are no signs of things changing.

Case in point people in the X-men films knowing about super powered people in 1963, as opposed to the Marvel films where they didn't until 2012.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Anyway, it's a moot point. The X-Men are far removed from the Marvel universe and there are no signs of things changing.

Case in point people in the X-men films knowing about super powered people in 1963, as opposed to the Marvel films where they didn't until 2012.

Cap was superheroing in the 1940s.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Anyway, it's a moot point. The X-Men are far removed from the Marvel universe and there are no signs of things changing.

Case in point people in the X-men films knowing about super powered people in 1963, as opposed to the Marvel films where they didn't until 2012.

Case in point is that Fox has the right to make X-Men movies and Fox and Marvel are antagonistic at the moment.

 

[FPAlpha]

I can't help but wonder if Marvel's MO is good or bad. They are asking their leading actors and some of the supporting actors to sign multi-movie deals and they keep a very tight leash on everything else.

That might not be a problem for upcoming movie stars like Chris Pratt or Chris Evans who already made their name known in Hollywood but didn't break big yet. Marvel movies are currently hot so this gave them big exposure as leading men and a big boost in their careers for the comparatively small commitment to be locked in for 2-3 movies.

This could be much harder to swallow with established movie stars who already have a very good career going like Joaquin Phoenix who is able to pick roles he wants to play and doesn't need to start/establish a career or even make a good paycheck so there have to be other incentives and apparently Marvel is unable/unwilling to give him that.

I know that Marvel is playing the long game with their MCU franchise and thus needs multi-movie deals for some cornerstone characters like Captain America or Iron Man but i fear the day where they overstep and choose the wrong actor just for the mentioned reasons. Marvel is either very skilled or just very lucky (probably both) to pick the right actor for their roles but every streak has to end sometime and i believe Marvel is courting desaster with this production method.