Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[Marsden]

Yes, Daredevil can do these things but Matt Murdock is supposed to be posing as a blind person. If his secret identity is blind, he should act blind.

That was my point in mentioning it, the picture of the new Matt Murdock seems to be blind, although it's hard to tell from a still.

And how would balancing on see-saws be a discrediting factor?
You're talking about a character who climbs fire escapes, jumps across rooftops and swings off flag poles.

I'm not seeing your bullshit reasoning here at all for Affleck's performance.

Yes, Daredevil can do those things, but, Matt Murdock is a blind lawyer that isn't some kind of Kung Fu blind master in his spare time. I would never have belived Murdock was blind in that movie, even before Electra showed up.

As I understand it, Daredevil isn't *actually* blind.

Daredevil's radar sense is more like a bat or dolphin's radar than sight. He can distinguish objects at a distance, and his hightened hearing and other senses can help fill in details, (he recognizes most people by the sound of their heartbeat, not their appearance) but he can not see colors or like Alidar Jarok just posted, can't see things on a flat surface, like reading a book or looking at a picture. He can't read a regular print law book, for example, but I think I remember him reading braile.

 

[Reverend]

Not necessarily. I wouldn't say it's more accurate, just different. It's certainly 360 and can seemingly go around corners, etc. I also think he's better at detecting motion. But when it comes to details or depth or anything like that, it's not there.

Here is a good article from someone with clearly too much time on their ha- I mean someone who has thought this out in lots of helpful detail

Daredevil certainly is blind. I strongly dislike any version that tries to say his sight is better. In fact, Daredevil today is at a greater disadvantage than in the past. D.G. Chichester's nonsensical and misguided attempts aside, the easiest example is this: Matt Murdock can't read what's on a computer screen. He can't really tell what's in photographs. In things like this, he's genuinely blind.

Sure, as I said his eyes don't work and therefore he can't perceive light waves. But the criticism I was responding to is that a certain actor didn't to a good job of portraying a "blind" person. What I'm saying is that when it comes to walking around and talking to people, he's not *effectively* blind and thus the criticism is something of a non sequitur. The white stick and glasses are just props.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I agree with the claims that he needs to act like a regular (but quite competent) blind person when in public and viewed by others (particularly those who know him). But he's been shown to let his guard down when with Elektra, so I don't find that unusual.

 

[bbjeg]

... the criticism I was responding to is that a certain actor didn't to a good job of portraying a "blind" person. What I'm saying is that when it comes to walking around and talking to people, he's not *effectively* blind and thus the criticism is something of a non sequitur. The white stick and glasses are just props.

I think you're missing the point of the criticism. Yes, Daredevil has radar senses, but his out of uniform secret identity is not supposed to act like he has radar senses. If someone in the real world walks up to you and says he's blind and precedes to do a backflip onto a seesaw, you're not going to believe he's blind.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

And my point is there's always been an "Elektra exception" to that rule.

 

[DEWLine]

Hmmm. Intriguing essay there on the "radar sense" (which has likely always been an oversimplification of what Matt's added sense does)...

 

[Enterprise1701]

Hawkeye might be in Captain America 3.

http://screenrant.com/captain-america-3-hawkeye-jeremy-renner/

 

[DEWLine]

That would be good.

 

[bbjeg]

With Agents of SHIELD airing on television, what's the chances of Nick Fury, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and the rest getting a Agents of SHIELD movie?

 

[superdeluxe]

Cross posted to Age of Ultron thread:

Captain America to form new Avengers Squad heading into Phase 3..with perhaps Captain Marvel?

http://badassdigest.com/2014/08/28/...embers-of-the-avengers-but-is-captain-marvel/

And so it shall be on film. At the end of Age of Ultron Cap will assemble a team that is a mix of familiar and new faces, leading forward into Phase Three. It's an exciting mission statement for Marvel Studios, letting audiences know that the Avengers team is more than just the guys who were in the first film. The make-up of that team is, technically, up in the air until that scene is shot (I suspect it's being saved for either scheduled reshoots or will be snuck into the schedule of Captain America 3, which goes before cameras early next year), but Joss Whedon's script did indicate who would be on that team. I won't reveal all the names - and some have changed in between drafts, by the way - but one character who has always been in this new team is Captain Marvel.

Now, this is an end of the movie cameo. This isn't a big part of the movie. This new version of The Avengers isn't involved in an action sequence or anything. So changing the characters can be done up until the last minute without hurting the story itself. What this bit accomplishes is basically pointing the way to Phase Three, saying "These characters will be important."

 

[Alidar Jarok]

With Agents of SHIELD airing on television, what's the chances of Nick Fury, Black Widow, Hawkeye, and the rest getting a Agents of SHIELD movie?

About the same as before, maybe slightly less. But the chances were always extremely small anyway.

 

[Reverend]

IIRC even in the comics, Fury isn't really known for his solo stories. He's more typically used as a title straddling supporting character, as he has been so far in the MCU.

They really ought to do a 'Black Widow' movie at some point. If Marvel can make a blockbuster out of GotG then I'm sure they can manage a female superhero movie that isn't a load of bollocks.

Hawkeye...honestly I'm not bothered either way. I don't actively dislike the character, but so far he doesn't seem all that interesting.

 

[bbjeg]

I always had a thing for the humans in the Marvel Universe. When I see Fury, Hawkeye, even Punisher (the Welcome Back Frank series to be precise) holding their own against super powered beings, I think to myself hooray humans.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

If you hate the guy, do watch the entire video posted here on the MCU films

 

[Turtletrekker]

Wow. That video is a load of crap.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Why, I actually agree with many points..

This isn't film-making. It's branding

 

[JoeZhang]

I don't even like superhero movies very much and though that was a load of crap.

 

[Shazam!]

What a load of crap.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

ok...
yes, he's kind of a troll and a douche, with no real style. I'll grant you that. but no one has actually talked about the points he made about Marvel. I find that most telling...

 

[Alidar Jarok]

You want to repost the most important points for those not in a convenient position to watch the video?