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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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One Last Kill feels like a backdoor pilot episode.

I enjoyed it but seems like there is more story that was set up for something down the road.
 
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Can I say something? It would be really disappointing if characters like Jubilee are not used in the new X-Men movies made by Marvel, because this character was never really used in the Fox films. Also, in my opinion, the main roster from X-Men: The Animated Series and X-Men ’97 should directly form the main X-Men team in the new movies.
 
One thing that makes me curious is that Marvel will start X-Men with a direct team movie. The question is whether Marvel will later make solo movies and shows for each character who will be part of the X-Men team.
 
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Can I say something? It would be really disappointing if characters like Jubilee are not used in the new X-Men movies made by Marvel, because this character was never really used in the Fox films. Also, in my opinion, the main roster from X-Men: The Animated Series and X-Men ’97 should directly form the main X-Men team in the new movies.
We've seen more than enough of those characters, I'd rather see them find a new group of characters to focus on. There are hundreds of X-Men characters, it would be nice to see some characters other than the same 5 or 6 they keep going back to over and over and over again.
 
We've seen more than enough of those characters, I'd rather see them find a new group of characters to focus on. There are hundreds of X-Men characters, it would be nice to see some characters other than the same 5 or 6 they keep going back to over and over and over again.
These characters are the building blocks of X-Men and are among the most widely known characters within X-Men teams. Also a huge franchise; at some point, other teams will likely receive separate series and films as well. Not surprising if, in Phase 7, 8, and 9, rather than Avengers characters, X-Men characters and team films and shows appear more frequently.
 
They can do something (all) new and (all) different by not wasting Storm as a bit/side cameo character with the depth of a half evaporated puddle.

Same with Cyclops.

And by not having the team be defined by orbiting Wolverine.

And by leaving Magneto for later.

There is loads they can do which is new and different and still use the same characters as previous movies. They are, largely, the headlining X-Men characters after all. But where other big characters like Jubilee and Gambit have been cameos at best previously, giving them more prominence might help facilitate newer feeling character dynamics.
 
We've seen more than enough of those characters, I'd rather see them find a new group of characters to focus on. There are hundreds of X-Men characters, it would be nice to see some characters other than the same 5 or 6 they keep going back to over and over and over again.

lol i am not the only one who wants to see more x men characters on x men 97

at least on the other x men cartoons like on wolverine and the x men and also on x men evolution the 2 shows showed more x men characters
 
I understand they're a huge part of the X-Men history, but we've seen them so many times already, it would be nice to see something new and different this time.

amen

i think in x men 97 they should have added more x men members to the team like how on the cartoons wolverine and the x men and x men evolution there are many members on x men
 
They can do something (all) new and (all) different by not wasting Storm as a bit/side cameo character with the depth of a half evaporated puddle.

Same with Cyclops.

And by not having the team be defined by orbiting Wolverine.

And by leaving Magneto for later.

There is loads they can do which is new and different and still use the same characters as previous movies. They are, largely, the headlining X-Men characters after all. But where other big characters like Jubilee and Gambit have been cameos at best previously, giving them more prominence might help facilitate newer feeling character dynamics.
Yeah, that's true they really could have done a lot more with those characters. Maybe they could do a combination of the '90s team with Cyclops, Jean, Storm, and Wolverine, and then some we haven't seen in the movies yet like Dazzler and Sunfire. I know a lot of people wouldn't mind if they didn't include Wolverine, but he's by far the most popular X-Man, so I can't imagine they wouldn't include him.
 
Yeah, that's true they really could have done a lot more with those characters. Maybe they could do a combination of the '90s team with Cyclops, Jean, Storm, and Wolverine, and then some we haven't seen in the movies yet like Dazzler and Sunfire. I know a lot of people wouldn't mind if they didn't include Wolverine, but he's by far the most popular X-Man, so I can't imagine they wouldn't include him.
I would love to see Sunfire.

I'm split on Wolverine, obviously the prior set of films are anchored (pun maybe intended) by Jackman. I feel like if you start off without him, then give him the big unveiling later, you risk putting an anchor of differing metaphorical nature around their neck. I think, if it were up to me (and I know it isn't), I'd go with him there from the beginning but have him as part of the ensemble rather than the lead/focus of it.

It's a difficult balancing act.

But, I will contradict myself because if they did have him as part of the ensemble, I'd love if the MCU in the X-Men sequel then did a version of Uncanny #132-133 (though not as part of another adaptation of the Dark Phoenix saga). Mainly because I loved in Homecoming how they adapted AMS # 33. So, keep Logan as part of the ensemble, be careful that the ensemble doesn't focus on, revolve around him but, yeah, give him that set piece or something like it.
 
I'm split on Wolverine, obviously the prior set of films are anchored (pun maybe intended) by Jackman.

I'm not seeing the pun there.

I'd like to see a more comics-accurate version of Wolverine, not a tall, handsome leading man type, but someone small, burly, animalistic in appearance and manner. I think the best way to get out from under Jackman's shadow is to make the new Wolverine as different as possible.
 
Yeah, that does sound like a great way to handle a new Wolverine.
I would love to see Sunfire.

I'm split on Wolverine, obviously the prior set of films are anchored (pun maybe intended) by Jackman. I feel like if you start off without him, then give him the big unveiling later, you risk putting an anchor of differing metaphorical nature around their neck. I think, if it were up to me (and I know it isn't), I'd go with him there from the beginning but have him as part of the ensemble rather than the lead/focus of it.

It's a difficult balancing act.

But, I will contradict myself because if they did have him as part of the ensemble, I'd love if the MCU in the X-Men sequel then did a version of Uncanny #132-133 (though not as part of another adaptation of the Dark Phoenix saga). Mainly because I loved in Homecoming how they adapted AMS # 33. So, keep Logan as part of the ensemble, be careful that the ensemble doesn't focus on, revolve around him but, yeah, give him that set piece or something like it.
Yeah, I would love to see this new series more of a true ensemble, with the focus spread more beyond just Wolverine and one or two other characters.
 
I'm not seeing the pun there.
wow. ok...so i could see you NOT watching "Deadpool and Wolverine".

But A simple Google search with simply "anchor Wolverine" gave me this:

In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, an "anchor being" is an entity of such vital importance that when they die, their entire reality steadily withers and dies with them. Introduced in the Deadpool & Wolverine film, Hugh Jackman's Logan (Wolverine) was identified as the crucial anchor for Deadpool's timeline (Earth-10005). [1, 2, 3]
The concept serves as a meta-joke about iconic characters whose absence causes a franchise to fade, but it also carries massive implications for the broader multiverse
with plenty of other places to easily explain it.

Glad you at least recognized it as a joke, even if you didn't get it.
I'd like to see a more comics-accurate version of Wolverine, not a tall, handsome leading man type, but someone small, burly, animalistic in appearance and manner. I think the best way to get out from under Jackman's shadow is to make the new Wolverine as different as possible.
i suppose that's possible... but I would think that Dafne Keen as X-23 would be a distinct probilbility for a newer Wolverine, especially as she is still young.

Her and Channing Tatum's Gambit would be very enticing to Marvel Studios for the pure marketing gold right there.


I think at this point, for the sake of marketing and merchandising, i think it woul dbe a hard sell to to comic-accurate Wolverine.
 
If they were to bring Wolverine into the Marvel Universe, I would like to see Logan's ties to Department H and Alpha Flight; or at least a mention of James and Heather Hudson as the ones who found him after he escaped from Styker and the Weapon X project.

Come to think of it, I'm surprised Marvel and Feige didn't try and launch an Alpha Flight movie, instead of The Eternals, post Endgame, with Master of the World as their opponent.
 
If they were to bring Wolverine into the Marvel Universe, I would like to see Logan's ties to Department H and Alpha Flight; or at least a mention of James and Heather Hudson as the ones who found him after he escaped from Styker and the Weapon X project.

Come to think of it, I'm surprised Marvel and Feige didn't try and launch an Alpha Flight movie, instead of The Eternals, post Endgame, with Master of the World as their opponent.
Alpha Flight hasn't really aged well. Several characters from the original line up would be considered inappropriate and insensitive today and need to be heavily reworked. It could be done in a way similar to the Echo series where the writers included consultation with indigenous peoples in their creation process.
 
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