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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Wait.... That was a end credit scene from Spider-Man Far From Home. We see Fury relaxing on the beach, until it turns out it's a simulation and he's on the SABER station.

In the mid-Credits Stinger of WandaVision Episode 9, a female Skrull privately talks to Monica and tells her that an "old friend" of Monica's mother wants to talk to her. When Monica asks where this old friend is, the Skrull points upward.

When viewed with the benefit of full knowledge, the Skrull pointing upward 'signposts' the fact that Fury is in space, which then ties directly into Far From Home, Secret Invasion, Ms. Marvel, and The Marvels (if you're watching those projects sequentially like I'm going to be).
 
In the mid-Credits Stinger of WandaVision Episode 9, a female Skrull privately talks to Monica and tells her that an "old friend" of Monica's mother wants to talk to her. When Monica asks where this old friend is, the Skrull points upward.

When viewed with the benefit of full knowledge, the Skrull pointing upward 'signposts' the fact that Fury is in space, which then ties directly into Far From Home, Secret Invasion, Ms. Marvel, and The Marvels (if you're watching those projects sequentially like I'm going to be).

WandaVision is from 2021, Far From Home is from 2019. Far From Home literally has a end credit scene with Fury in a spacestation. So..... Yeah.
 
Ah, I see the confusion. I watched it when it was released so I knew that before WandaVision.

No confusion, just me commenting on how WandaVision Episode 9's mid-Credits Stinger fits with FFH (which I just rewatched last night) if viewed sequentially as part of a marathon.
 
No confusion, just me commenting on how WandaVision Episode 9's mid-Credits Stinger fits with FFH (which I just rewatched last night) if viewed sequentially as part of a marathon.

Yes confusion, because of the way you made it seem as if we only learned about until WandaVision. Even thought we knew two years earlier. It might fit in viewing order, but the rest of the world realized it in 2019, not 2021.
 
Looks like the stunt team for Jackie Chan will be doing the stunts



He recently visited the set in London.

Ooh. What if He’s Martin Li/ Mr Negative?
That's awesome! It would be interesting to see him as Mr. Negative, I've never seen him play a villain before.
 
According to the disney plus timeline, The Thunderbolts* takes place in between Daredevil Born Again and Ironheart. That means theoretically New York City may still have been under the curfew and high alert status that it was at the end of season 1 of Born Again season one.

Of course, being as we only see New York City during the day and pretty much localized at one specific location, it is possible that those conditions are still in place. However, if in Thunderbolts*, Wilson Fisk is still mayor, then he would surely have objection to a superhuman team setting up shop in his city, despite it being government based.

One possibility is that the events have Born Again season 2 will also take place before Thunderbolts*, and the conditions imposed by Mayor Fisk have been repealed. Another slightly more sinister option is that between the end credit scene of Black Widow and the Hawkeye show, a professional relationship between Wilson Fisk and Val is implied. Perhaps Val made a deal with Fisk that the New Avengers know nothing about.
 
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According to the disney plus timeline, Yhe Thunderbolts* takes place in between Daredevil Born Again and Ironheart. That means theoretically New York City may stillhave been under the curfew and high alert status. It was at the end of season 1 of Born Again season one.

Of course, being as we only see New York City during the day and pretty much localized at onr specific location, it is possible that those conditions are still in place. However if in Thunderbolts*, Wilson Fisk is still mayor, then he would surely have objection to a superhuman team setting up shop in his city, despite it being government based.

One possibility is that the events have born again season 2 will also take place before Thunderbolts*, and the conditions imposed by Mayor Fisk have been repealed. Another slightly more sinister option is that between the end credit scene of Black Eidow and the Hawkeye show, a professional relationship between Wilson Fisk and Val is implied. Perhaps Val made a deal with Fisk that the New Avengers know nothing about.

Ironheart explicitly takes place in October 2025, so, big surprise, somebody screwed up the timeline again.

Based on internal narrative logic, multiple Phase 4 and Phase 5 projects are wrongly placed on the timeline, which should look like this:
Eyes of Wakanda
Marvel Studios One Shot: Agent Carter
Captain Marvel
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
The Incredible Hulk
Marvel Studios One Shot: A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor’s Hammer
Thor
Marvel Studios One Shot: The Consultant
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Avengers
Marvel Studios One Shot: Item 47
Thor: The Dark World
Iron Man 3
Marvel Studios One Shot: All Hail the King
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Guardians of the Galaxy
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
I Am Groot S1
I Am Groot S2
Daredevil S1
Jessica Jones S1
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Daredevil S2
Luke Cage S1
Iron Fist S1
The Defenders
Captain America: Civil War
Black Widow
Black Panther
Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man
Spider-Man: Homecoming
The Punisher S1
Doctor Strange
Jessica Jones S2
Luke Cage S2
Iron Fist S2
Daredevil S3
Thor: Ragnarok
The Punisher S2
Jessica Jones S3
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Avengers: Infinity War
Avengers: Endgame
Loki S1
Loki S2
What If…? S1
What If...? S2
What If...? S3
WandaVision
Deadpool and Wolverine
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Spider-Man: Far From Home
Spider-Man: No Way Home
Eternals
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
Hawkeye
Moon Knight
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Echo
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law
Secret Invasion
Ms. Marvel
The Marvels
Ironheart
Thor: Love and Thunder
The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special
Werewolf By Night
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
Captain America: Brave New World
Agatha All Along
Daredevil: Born Again
Thunderbolts*
 
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Continuing my watch of MCU movies I have missed over the years, I saw Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings last night. It wasn't a bad movie and visually it was one of the more gorgeous movies of the MCU. I think it started to strain believeability at the end with the two dragon/monster fight, but overall it wasn't bad. I was reading about a possible sequel though and reading that we probably won't get one until 2028 at the earliest. That's 7 years between the two movies. I know we have had pandemics and strikes, but that's a long time to wait for a sequel. It kind of goes back to what I've been saying before about the end credit scenes and how you can see the MCU changing course and leaving some of these characters behind. I guess this end credit scene lead into Multiverse of Madness (And it's been so long since i saw that movie) but I wouldn't mind seeing Shang-Chi and Katy and Nan again.
 
Continuing my watch of MCU movies I have missed over the years, I saw Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings last night. It wasn't a bad movie and visually it was one of the more gorgeous movies of the MCU. I think it started to strain believeability at the end with the two dragon/monster fight, but overall it wasn't bad. I was reading about a possible sequel though and reading that we probably won't get one until 2028 at the earliest. That's 7 years between the two movies. I know we have had pandemics and strikes, but that's a long time to wait for a sequel. It kind of goes back to what I've been saying before about the end credit scenes and how you can see the MCU changing course and leaving some of these characters behind. I guess this end credit scene lead into Multiverse of Madness (And it's been so long since i saw that movie) but I wouldn't mind seeing Shang-Chi and Katy and Nan again.
Shang-Chi will be in Avengers: Doomsday, and probably Avengers: Secret Wars, so that might be part of why we aren't getting the second movie until '27.
Destin Daniel Cretton was also supposed to direct Avengers: The Kang Dynasty before it became Doomsday, and is now, as in right now at this very moment, directing Spider-Man: Brand New Day, so that might have also impacted S-C 2's release. But I'm pretty sure it's a pretty sold part of the plans for the MCU's future.
 
Yeah, we should've at least gotten a trailer for Marvel Zombies (out this month!) and another trailer for Wonder Man. Maybe also more info about Vision Quest (including whether it's avtually called that).
 
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