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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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I'm wondering if there's a possibility that Drax's daughter is still alive and would be in a future movie. In the comics she's called Moondragon and has various mental powers.
 
I think I remember seeing her asked about in the past, but I can't remember what kind of reaction she got.
 
Of course, in the comics Drax was originally a human being. A real estate agent named Arthur Douglas, who was killed along with his wife by Thanos. Moondragon was his daughter Heather.

Douglas was brought back to life and empowered by the powerful, godlike being called Chronos, who was once Thanos' grandfather before achieving a higher state of existence, for the sole purpose of destroying Thanos.

Heather was taken by Mentor, Thanos (and Starfox's) father, to Titan where she received all of her training.

A mite convoluted, eh? And already mostly abandoned as far as Drax is concerned. So, if they were to bring in Moondragon, it might be better to just ignore the connection to Drax all together.
 
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Turtletrekker said:
Of course, in the comics Drax was originally a human being. A real estate agent named Arthur Douglas, who was killed along with his wife by Thanos. Moondragon was his daughter Heather.

Douglas was brought back to life and empowered by the powerful, godlike being called Chronos, who was once Thanos' grandfather before achieving a higher state of existence, for the sole purpose of destroying Thanos.

Heather was taken by Mentor, Thanos (and Starfox's) father, to Titan where she received all of her training.

A mite convoluted, eh? And already mostly abandoned as far as Drax is concerned. So, if they were to bring in Moondragon, it might be better to just ignore the connection to Drax all together.
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Well, I'm pretty sure Drax mentioned his family being killed by Thanos in the movie, so he could easily have had a daughter in the MCU. They could bring in Moondragon as his daughter, and just say she didn't die. Maybe she was taken in by some group (maybe Thanos's lackies) and Drax just thought she was dead. She could come in as a bad guy. Or just a neutral character (that would probably make her less like Gamora/Nebula). Really, it wouldn't be hard or overly complicated to bring in Moonstone as his daughter.Its a story thing that has been done before, its not that complicated, and it keeps the characters mostly the same while not using some of the more convuluted comic stuff. That feels like a very MCU way of doing things, to me.

A long lost child thought dead but actually rescued by a mysterious group, and is now grown up. They could even give her the same look, and just say/show that her mother looked more humanlike then drax, which is why Moondragon doesn't look like her Dad.
 
Alidar Jarok said:
His family was killed by Ronan in the movie, if I'm not mistaken.
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Yeah, you're right. Still, my point about it being easy to introduce Moondragon as Drax's long lost daughter still stands. She survives Ronan's attack as a child but is taken by some mysterious group, and Drax assumes she died with his wife. She comes back as the adult Moondragon.
 
Yeah, that's what I'd assume would happen. I'm actually surprised that Elizabeth Debicki wasn't Moondragon since it seemed like there will be a parent/child theme with everyone else in the movie (Starlord and his father, Gamora and her sister as daughters of Thanos, etc.).
 
We get Doctor Strange in less than 2 months. I'm not super excited for the movie itself, but I am excited to see how the movie shakes out and stacks up against the other 6 comic book movies this year.

Deadpool
BvS
CACW
TMNT 2
X-Men A
SS

I've had a chance to watch all these films multiple times now (i've seen SS 3x in theaters) and I have to say we were given some clunkers this year. By my estimation, we've had 3 good CBMs and 3 bad ones. No pressure Doc, but I'm counting on you to join the winning team.
 
I haven't seen all of those, so I can't comment. But I have high hopes for Strange, and I've never even read any of the comics with his characters. The tone of the trailers just really speaks to me.
 
Of this year's class the only one that I have bought for home viewing is Civil War while I would watch Deadpool if they found a way to broadcast it. It was only the last trailer which turned Doctor Strange from something I would see just to complete the set like the Thor movies had been for me into something to look forward to in November.
 
kirk55555 said:
Well, I'm pretty sure Drax mentioned his family being killed by Thanos in the movie, so he could easily have had a daughter in the MCU. They could bring in Moondragon as his daughter, and just say she didn't die. Maybe she was taken in by some group (maybe Thanos's lackies) and Drax just thought she was dead. She could come in as a bad guy. Or just a neutral character (that would probably make her less like Gamora/Nebula). Really, it wouldn't be hard or overly complicated to bring in Moonstone as his daughter.Its a story thing that has been done before, its not that complicated, and it keeps the characters mostly the same while not using some of the more convuluted comic stuff. That feels like a very MCU way of doing things, to me.

A long lost child thought dead but actually rescued by a mysterious group, and is now grown up. They could even give her the same look, and just say/show that her mother looked more humanlike then drax, which is why Moondragon doesn't look like her Dad.
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Maybe she is one of the daughters of Thanos like Gamora and Nebula. She may not even remember her earlier life and will end up battling Drax. Sounc 'comic book' enough to me.
 
I've only seen five of the CBM's this year (TMNT hold zero interest) and it currently stands at 2/5 in the good column.

So, frankly, Stephen, you've gotta pull it out of the bag or 2016 will really go down as a bad year for tentpole SFF flicks.

No, that's not fair. Even if Strange is a masterpiece, it won't help make up for how wretched a year it has been for Hollywood and their ever-expanding-budget blockbusters. I have only one that comfortably cleared the passing grade mark. A few scraped a passing mark, but most failed. Painfully.

If Rogue One turns into the mess that the interweb media is trying to present it as thanks to its back-office shenanigans, then 2016 might be one of the worst years for Spectacle Films full stop.

Hugo - desperately hoping NOT
 
For me, I'd rate the superhero movies that came out this year (that I've seen) like this:

Great:
Deadpool
Captain America Civil War

Ok:
X-Men Apocalypse
Suicide Squad

Mediocre:
Batman v Superman

I think Doctor Strange is definitely going to be in the first category.
 
Apologies for the double post, but I just found this interesting video about the use of music in the MCU, or, in fact, its under or misuse.

Though the author of the video is asking you to weigh his proposal that the MCU has little or no themes against unique and iconic music from Star Wars or Indiana Jones (which is a little unfair) he does make some interesting points about how music is used in Cinema as a whole and how those redundancies play out in the MCU.

I've always been a fan of Alan Silvestri's Avengers theme and James Gunn mostly eschewed theme music or iconic incidental music in favour of his "Mix Tape".

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Hugo - Thoughts?
 
I agree that Marvel movies are lacking in the musical score department. The only memorable scores in my opinion are Alan Silverstri scores for Captain America: The First Avenger and Avengers. I was thrilled to hear that Silverstri is scoring Avengers 3 & 4.
 
The overall point of the video is perfectly valid, however I think they picked the wrong example to hang this on. Can't speak for anyone else but I instantly started humming the very distinctive Avengers theme in my head.
That the average person on the street can't recall it but can hum the opening fanfare of Star Wars probably has almost as much to do with cultural saturation as with an over dependence on temp-tracking scores. In other words, the likes of Star Wars have had a few decades head start, so it's not an entirely fair comparison.
 
I do think that the majority of the MCU's musical scores are essentially equivalent to sonic wallpaper, like the majority of the music in TNG, DS9, and VOY, but I agree with @Turtletrekker that Silvestri's Captain America theme and Avengers theme are very memorable. I actually recalled the Cap theme before the Avengers theme.

That was a good video, though. It speaks to a problem with music in Hollywood in general, not just with the MCU.
 
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