Not immune to death. Just maybe don't go all gore on a character was in enough episodes to sort of be part of family. I know Voyer didn't have as many of those types like DS9 but they had a few. Ichep was one.
Manu Intiraymi as "Icheb"
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Not immune to death. Just maybe don't go all gore on a character was in enough episodes to sort of be part of family. I know Voyer didn't have as many of those types like DS9 but they had a few. Ichep was one.
That's what I meant. Why?
They can do it to whoever they want. Being a main or reoccurring character doesn't make them special.
In theory would this not count as fridging a character? Not that such a thing bothers me. The most important thing is always the plot and the main characters development but when you think about it they are kind of relying on people to have some knowledge of who he is in order to feel for Seven's loss over him. If I had never seen Voyager before the death would mean very little to me because they did no development with him on the show.
Same. It served the story and the character of Seven. The only thing it didn't do was be identical to past portrayals.
exaxtly.
By the way, I loved how they referred to the absence of his cortical node: it’s a line that won’t mean anything to those not familiar with the character but that shows that the writers are in fact familiar with him.
The current Trek writers are very familiar with Trek. References from episodes, novels and even ancient fanfic have crept into the shows.
Of course, they're such deep cuts they go over 90% of fans' heads.
If Manu played Icheb gay, which is entirely possible, then maybe he would have been after a 27 year old woman to be his surrogate mother. Icheb being gay is a valid reason for running away when he erroneously thought that B'Elanna wanted to boff him. Of course that would mean that he was written gay and that Manu wasn't trying to pull an Andrew Robinson.
So despite having what looked a 20 year old body, as possibly an 11 year old child, who Icheb should have been romantically interested in is Naomi Wildman, even if it looked creepy.
So despite having what looked a 20 year old body, as possibly an 11 year old child, who Icheb should have been romantically interested in is Naomi Wildman, even if it looked creepy.
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not necessarily: a lot of 11 year olds find interesting older girls and not ones their age.
Never got the idea that Icheb was supposed to be gay, honestly.
He had two romantic episodes.
One where he thought he had to fight tom for the pleasure of B'Elanna, and the other where he loved Seven so much he cut half of his brain out, and gave it to her.
The first was him running from what he believed to be a certain heterosexual encounter, and the second in retrospect may have been filial love, and not romantic love at all.
I was suggesting that "Gay Icheb" was a secret choice made by the actor, that he never shared with anyone.
Like how we used to think that George Michael was singing about women in all his love songs, because we were dumb.
Yep, I never felt he had romantic feelings for 7 and his reaction to belanna was pretty similar to Kim’s to 7 (but much more appropriate, as Icheb was much younger).
She was assimilated at 6, so that's when her emotional development stunted. Once liberated she was in many ways like a hyper-intelligent child. 20 years later, she would have matured to the point of perhaps seeming like a different character.
The majority of teenagers on TV are played by older actors. I think Icheb being a teenager was implied if never outright stated.
I never once thought Icheb had romantic feelings for Seven. It always came off as a mother/big sister relationship to me.
Icheb being gay is a cool idea, but I think there was scant canonical evidence. I believe Kirsten Beyer established him as gay or bi in the Voyager novels. I have now created a headcanon that the love of his life was q (son of Q and Q).
I never once thought Icheb had romantic feelings for Seven. It always came off as a mother/big sister relationship to me.
Icheb being gay is a cool idea, but I think there was scant canonical evidence. I believe Kirsten Beyer established him as gay or bi in the Voyager novels. I have now created a headcanon that the love of his life was q (son of Q and Q).
I don't see any maturity here...
Did they give a year for the flashback? If not it could have happened any time between Icheb reaching the rank he's shown having (Lt?) and 2399 (21 ).
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