How would you all feel if Manny Coto directed Star Trek XI instead of Abrams? Coto really improved Enterprise in Season 4 and seemed to know what he was doing, imagine what he could of done with Trek XI!
Manny Coto instead of Abrams
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I'd like to see Manny Coto write a movie about J.J. Abrams directing Star Trek XI. And then I'd like to see J.J. Abrams direct that movie.
My problem with Abrams as well, although, obviously, Abrams is a high profile guy. How would I feel if Manny Coto was directing this film? I don't know. I enjoyed ENT S4, for what that's worth.
Coto might make a good producer, but it's hard to tell one way or another from "Star Trek Enterprise." As a friend put it recently, the fourth year of that show was basically a polite reach-around for the fans who'd stuck with it - not based on a strategy for success, but a nice going-away gift.
I don't know if he'd have as much of an "outsider" pov to help give Trek a fresh look or not.
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I dread to think what he would have done with XI.
Season 4 of ENT was fanboyish rubbish IMO.
Enterprise was such a terrible show, I don't think it's fair to use it as the primary indicator of whether Coto has the chops to do a feature film (even one like the Star Treks, which are all basically glorified TV episodes). Still, his season was the best of that dismal little series. But while it seems anybody with the right connections (nepotism) can call themselves a director nowadays, I'd want someone with more experience. I'm not sure Abrams eclipses Coto much in that respect -- and I thought his MI:3 was pretty pedestrian and enjoyable only for watching it struggle to invoke the original show -- but he does have at least that one "blockbuster" effort on his resume.
I enjoyed ENT's season 4 with Coto, but as others have said you needed to be a fan to get it. I'm glad we got all new people working on this film. Change, new ideas, and fresh blood is a good thing. It's necessary if Trek is to continue on screen in some form to bring in new viewers.
Exactly. Most of his stories were definitely written for the fans. Mirror universes, Tos era costumes and ships, genetically engineered supermen, Gorns and Tholians; The checklist went on.
I'm very happy with Paramount's decision to give the franchise over to JJ Abrams and an all-new creative team. Nothing against Manny Coto - I definitely think ENT improved in its final season because of him. But the franchise needs a shot in the arm, and it needs a completely new regime. Plus, I've been a fan of Abrams' other projects so I definitely trust him at the helm.
I'm actually really happy that we are getting some new blood into this franchise.
If Coto had been brought in a season earlier, he might have had a chance of salvaging ENT.....but I'm still for giving J.J. a chance.
If Coto had been brought in a season earlier, he might have had a chance of salvaging ENT.....but I'm still for giving J.J. a chance.
Exactly. I think many would contend that Trek is at its sharpest when it operates in the capacity that it was originally created for, as a vehicle to explore topical issues and the like. It all harkens back to that TOS-style of storytelling. And even though I enjoyed Season four of Enterprise, I thought it was clearly stuck in the rut that modern Trek fell into time and again -- where the show became more about Trek than about issues, ideas, etc; Trek's bread and butter. The whole Klingon arc would be an example of this, not to mention the Augments/Brent Spiner arc, as well.
So...you'll be the other guy in the theater when it comes out?
^I'll be the third guy, but only if it's produced by Uwe Boll.
Same here. He was given that crappy Season 3 cliffhanger by B&B and told to wrap it up. Unfortunately, it was such a mess it took Coto two episodes to make it legit...two episodes which I wish could have been spent on something better in an already-shortened season. In any case, Enterprise Season 4 was the best of the series, and had Coto been on board earlier, the show could be wrapping up its seven-year run right now.
I agree that Enterprise was much improved under Coto in season 4, and I think he did great work beyond the TOS references that season (which I see as a farewell present to the fans; everyone knew the show wasn't coming back no matter what); after all, he also wrote some of the best episodes of season 3 as well.
Having said that, at this point I think Abrams helming the project is better, if only because he has more mainstream buzz around his name, and that is likely to help the movie attract more widespread interest.
Having said that, at this point I think Abrams helming the project is better, if only because he has more mainstream buzz around his name, and that is likely to help the movie attract more widespread interest.
Kudos to Coto for the work he did on ENT season 4, but I'd prefer Abrams and his fresh-approach to Trek then Coto, who came up through the Berman camp of Trek-making. Coto did make positive changes on season 4, but unfortunately some of the things that were done were way too fan-boyish.
