Mallozzi: All Atlantis Writers Going To Universe

[Kpnuts]

The pilot has been called Air

not filling me with excitement

What's in a name? It is about as nondescript as "Rising".

SG-1, land based = Earth

Atlantis, sea based = Water, 'Rising' up from the

SGU, space based = 'Air'

My bet would be Mallozi is trying to be deep and meaningful

 

[DWF]

The pilot has been called Air

not filling me with excitement

What's in a name? It is about as nondescript as "Rising".

SG-1, land based = Earth

Atlantis, sea based = Water, 'Rising' up from the

SGU, space based = 'Air'

My bet would be Mallozi is trying to be deep and meaningful

Seeing as how it was written by Brad Wright and Robert C Cooper I don't think Mallozzi had much to do with it.

 

[ATimson]

Seeing as how it was written by Brad Wright and Robert C Cooper I don't think Mallozzi had much to do with it.

Though to be fair, they are the ones who named "Rising".

(Not that I have anything against them or their work--I'm more likely to be entertained by a Wright/Cooper produced episode than a Mallozzi/Mullie one. Just being pedantic in pointing out that those would would be instilling the meaning, if not the cited person, are the same for both instances.)

 

[steveman]

Stargate couldn't get the O'Neill/Carter relationship right over the course of eight seasons. Eight.

What makes us think they'll be able to get any relationship right over the course of one?

Now, I understand that it takes time for relationships to grow and build and such. I'll give the writers that. But I just don't think Stargate's previous history portends good things for a show that will supposedly be more character-driven.

 

[DWF]

Stargate couldn't get the O'Neill/Carter relationship right over the course of eight seasons. Eight.

What makes us think they'll be able to get any relationship right over the course of one?

Now, I understand that it takes time for relationships to grow and build and such. I'll give the writers that. But I just don't think Stargate's previous history portends good things for a show that will supposedly be more character-driven.

That fact that Carter and O'Neill were military officers make such a relationship difficult, but they don't have that problem with this series.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Stargate couldn't get the O'Neill/Carter relationship right over the course of eight seasons. Eight.

What makes us think they'll be able to get any relationship right over the course of one?

Now, I understand that it takes time for relationships to grow and build and such. I'll give the writers that. But I just don't think Stargate's previous history portends good things for a show that will supposedly be more character-driven.

That fact that Carter and O'Neill were military officers make such a relationship difficult, but they don't have that problem with this series.

The fact that they are military officers is no excuse for the go-nowhere writing for their relationship. It's just another obstacle to be integrated into the story, and all drama has obstacles. Drama is about obstacles. The fact remains that the writers didn't do anything interesting with the relationship and better/more ambitious writers could have.

 

[Hermiod]

^The issue of them being military officers was a smokescreen. The reason they didn't do it is because Amanda Tapping hated the idea of her character being reduced to "Jack's girlfriend".

 

[Kpnuts]

I didn't mind the way they played the Jack/Sam thing in the first half of the season, ie. the episode where Anise comes to the SGC and interogates them. That was pretty well done... but after that their would-be relationship just became a laughable joke. And the bit in Moebius where they kiss... just to finally give the J/S shippers something to celebrate was pretty pathetic.

The writer's can't write a decent relationship anyway, that much is painfully obvious.

McKay + Katie out of the blue... then Katie is dumped... then Keller and Ronan... then Keller and McKay and Ronan... then Keller and Vega... all in the space of a season with hardly anything interesting actually happening in all that time between the characters....

No thanks

 

[DWF]

There was no relationship between Vega and Keller.

 

[Kpnuts]

There was no relationship between Vega and Keller.

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/12/mallozzi_captain_vega_was_gay.shtml

I was speaking about the writer's ability to handle relationships. Once again, don't take it so literally.

 

[DWF]

There was no relationship between Vega and Keller.

http://www.gateworld.net/news/2008/12/mallozzi_captain_vega_was_gay.shtml

I was speaking about the writer's ability to handle relationships. Once again, don't take it so literally.

There was no relationship for them for them handle so it's a bad example. And I think they're doing just fine with Rodney's relationship with Keller. If a relationship doesn't exist there's no way they can mess it up. And in any event things will different on the new show allowing for the possibility of a relationship if Brad Wright will allow it.

 

[Kpnuts]

There was no relationship for them for them handle so it's a bad example. If a relationship doesn't exist there's no way they can mess it up.

McKay + Katie out of the blue... then Katie is dumped... then Keller and Ronan... then Keller and McKay and Ronan... then Keller and Vega... all in the space of a season

Don't take the last (non bolded one) so seriously !

The writer's had written a line in the script that dealt with yet another person asking Keller out on a date. But regardless, the point is, Mallozi etc can't write serious, interesting, compelling 'grown up' relationships to save their lives

 

[bigdaddy]

The writer's had written a line in the script that dealt with yet another person asking Keller out on a date. But regardless, the point is, Mallozi etc can't write serious, interesting, compelling 'grown up' relationships to save their lives

Begs the question are any of the writers married? I'm going to guess no.

 

[Kpnuts]

The writer's had written a line in the script that dealt with yet another person asking Keller out on a date. But regardless, the point is, Mallozi etc can't write serious, interesting, compelling 'grown up' relationships to save their lives

Begs the question are any of the writers married? I'm going to guess no.

You know what's going to happen now right? Someone is going to post a reply to you stating how one of them is in fact married and then say that your argument is therefore pointless.

Mallozi is married to his 10 trillion word blog.

 

[The Habs Fan]

Mallozi is married to his 10 trillion word blog.

Well, according to his blog, this is the writer situation on Universe:

3. You wrote previously that Carl Binder would be producer while the other writers including you would only write the occasional script but be less involved. Is that still the case or will Gero, you and the others all be producing and involved full time?

Nothing has changed (or will change). Carl, Brad, and Robert will be producing the show. Paul, Martin, and I will only serve as consultants.

http://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/december-16-2008-dinner-at-the-db-bistro/

So there you are. Carl Binder, Brad Wright, and Robert C. Cooper are the producers of SGU.

 

[Apogeal Alpha01]

^ I agree the poll needs a 3rd option. If I am MGM, see how the first season goes down before bringing in or axing writers.

Agreed. Life is full of options and compromises in between extremes. One new perceptive writer may make all the difference, the spark to another great run. The old crew may be refreshed with a new task at hand.

 

[pork3]

The writer's had written a line in the script that dealt with yet another person asking Keller out on a date. But regardless, the point is, Mallozi etc can't write serious, interesting, compelling 'grown up' relationships to save their lives

Begs the question are any of the writers married? I'm going to guess no.

For that matter, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been a long time since there was a woman writing/producing for any of the Stargate offshoots. Bringing in a female perspective, with regards to characterization and plotting, would be a refreshing change to the relative monotony associated with this franchise as of late.

I say this with SG-1's "Hundred Days" in mind, written by Victoria James and Brad Wright, which I always found to be a bit of a gem in SG-1's golden era.
-Jamman

 

[firehawk12]

The writer's had written a line in the script that dealt with yet another person asking Keller out on a date. But regardless, the point is, Mallozi etc can't write serious, interesting, compelling 'grown up' relationships to save their lives

Begs the question are any of the writers married? I'm going to guess no.

For that matter, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been a long time since there was a woman writing/producing for any of the Stargate offshoots. Bringing in a female perspective, with regards to characterization and plotting, would be a refreshing change to the relative monotony associated with this franchise as of late.

I say this with SG-1's "Hundred Days" in mind, written by Victoria James and Brad Wright, which I always found to be a bit of a gem in SG-1's golden era.
-Jamman

Off topic, but I'm still pissed that they dropped that storyline because it was "unpopular" with fans. Ugh.

 

[ATimson]

For that matter, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been a long time since there was a woman writing/producing for any of the Stargate offshoots. Bringing in a female perspective, with regards to characterization and plotting, would be a refreshing change to the relative monotony associated with this franchise as of late.

I say this with SG-1's "Hundred Days" in mind, written by Victoria James and Brad Wright, which I always found to be a bit of a gem in SG-1's golden era.

Well, Victoria C. James only provided the basic story for "A Hundred Days", while Brad Wright did the teleplay, a not-insignificant part of the final product on its own, and he probably deserves "story by" credit too. (The producers have tended to not take credit away from freelancers, even where they contributed enough that they could probably deserve to be credited.)

While they have had females on staff in the past, notably Katharyn Powers and Heather E. Ash, their episodes aren't generally noted as some of the better ones. (And often are noted among the worst--"Emancipation" anyone?)

 

[Harvey]

Ash at least wrote the excellent "Foothold."

Powers may have written "Emancipation," but that was very early on in the series, and she was also responsible for "Thor's Hammer" and "Smoke and Mirrors," both of which I quite enjoy. Of course, she also wrote "Code of Honor" for Star Trek: The Next Generation...