Lost from the beginning (NO SPOILERS)
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Jeezus! If I'd know what craziness would ensue, I would have waited until I had time to watch both parts together!
Through the Looking Glass Part 2:
It may be cliche to say it, but this is the kind of episode where you know nothing will be the same afterward.
Ok, so flashback part 2 shows us Jack still drunk, drugging, and with a beard that would make Grizzly Adams jealous. He's trying to call someone, but keeps on getting hung up on. He also visits a funeral home when he hears someone he knows has died. However, nobody else attends this person's funeral. Enough about that for now, though. Let's move on from this sad soul.
The survivors reach the radio tower, and find Ben in waiting for them. He asks Jack for a talk, mano a mano. Jack concedes, and the two talk. Ben tells Jack that he's making a grave mistake in trusting Naomi, and that she doesn't work for Penny, but for someone else that is trying to find the island for their own nefarious purposes. Jack, of course, will hear none of this. Jack threatens Ben, which causes him to radio Tom and tell him to kill the three captives if he doesn't hear Ben's voice in one minute. A minute passes, and we hear three gunshots. This causes Jack to fly into a crazy rage and beat the living hell out of Ben. What an amazing cathartic moment that was. Ben may be one of my favorite characters on this show, but man did he have that coming.
Now for down in Looking Glass. Mikhail is about to carry out his orders, and shoots both the women. Before he can off Charlie, though, Mikhail gets a harpoon in the chest courtesy of Desmond. Hell yeah! Surely he's done for good now. Charlie asks the dying woman for the code to turn of the jammer, which turns out to be Good Vibrations by the Beach Boys. It only could be Charlie who could turn off the jammer, then. He's a musician, and would know that thing by heart. Even if Desmond's noble offer had been taken, he wouldn't have been able to do it.
Now for down on the beach. Ah, well it looks like there's some more dissent in the ranks, and Tom didn't kill our three intrepid marksmen. I'll say, this whole season Ben has seemed almost infallible. He was always in control of the situation to every detail. To see his world crumbling around him, and the situation spiraling madly out of his control makes for some damn fine television. He's human after all. So yeah, Sawyer and Juliet are outnumbered an outgunned. How are they going to mount a rescue? Enter Hurley, in one of the biggest FUCK YEAH! moments in the whole show so far. He gets his van and plows right over one of the Others. Hey, there's a gun! Sayid steps up in the chaos and has another moment of badassery when he snaps a guy's neck with his legs. Then Sawyer executes Tom. Hasta La Vista, Baby. Oh, and they all owe Hurley an apology, now.
Back to Looking Glass. Charlie enters in the code, and deactivates the jammer. There's a signal coming through, and holy crap! It's Penny! She has a bombshell to drop, though. That boat out there that Naomi is from? It's not hers. Ben just might be right. Just like that, what was a glimmer of hope has turned to an omen of doom. Damn you, show! Things get worse, though. Mikhail shows up outside the window with a grenade (how much does it take to frakking kill this guy?!?!?!?) Boom goes the window, and water floods the room. Charlie makes the ultimate sacrifice and seals the door to save Desmond. He quickly writes on his hand "Not Penny's Boat" and shows Desmond the urgent message. Then Charlie dies.
Poor guy. He's had his ups and downs as a character, but his heart has almost always been in the right place (expect for that "make Locke suffer" phase.) I'm sad to see him go. There is some poetry, though, in the fact that Desmond has spent most of the season saving Charlie's life, only for Charlie to die saving Desmond's. The episode isn't over yet, though.
At the radio tower, they shut off Rousseau's signal, and Naomi contacts her boat. She's cut short by a knife to back from Locke. What the hell, man? Ok, ok, he's (rather selfishly) sabotaged their efforts to get off the island before, but now he's murdered someone in cold blood. That's crossing the line. I'm unable to see Locke as anything but an antagonist, now. I'm sure the rest of the survivors feel the same way. They rejoice as they gets a signal through and rescue seems imminent, but we the viewers are now feeling a sense of dread at what should be the happiest event in the show.
We finish up the episode with the flashback, in which Jack finally gets the person that's been hanging up on him to meet him. So, he goes to meet the person and it's Kate.
Wait, what?
This isn't a flashback! It's a flash forward! They've been rescued already, and are off the island. Jack insists that they have to go back. Why, we aren't told. There's the explanation for his behavior, though. Um, whoa. That caught me by surprise. I had been saying for a while it was time to shake up to flashback formula. Is this how they do it? Are they going to show the survivors after they get off the island, while they're still on the island in the present? That would be pretty awesome, actually. It's almost like moving the story ahead at double speed.
This episode (along with the one before it) is one of the absolute highlights of the series so far. The status quo is destroyed. I can't wait to start season four now. I can also see why you were all so impatient for me to review this. Well, there. I loved it. You happy?
Through the Looking Glass Part 2:
It may be cliche to say it, but this is the kind of episode where you know nothing will be the same afterward.
Ok, so flashback part 2 shows us Jack still drunk, drugging, and with a beard that would make Grizzly Adams jealous. He's trying to call someone, but keeps on getting hung up on. He also visits a funeral home when he hears someone he knows has died. However, nobody else attends this person's funeral. Enough about that for now, though. Let's move on from this sad soul.
The survivors reach the radio tower, and find Ben in waiting for them. He asks Jack for a talk, mano a mano. Jack concedes, and the two talk. Ben tells Jack that he's making a grave mistake in trusting Naomi, and that she doesn't work for Penny, but for someone else that is trying to find the island for their own nefarious purposes. Jack, of course, will hear none of this. Jack threatens Ben, which causes him to radio Tom and tell him to kill the three captives if he doesn't hear Ben's voice in one minute. A minute passes, and we hear three gunshots. This causes Jack to fly into a crazy rage and beat the living hell out of Ben. What an amazing cathartic moment that was. Ben may be one of my favorite characters on this show, but man did he have that coming.
Now for down in Looking Glass. Mikhail is about to carry out his orders, and shoots both the women. Before he can off Charlie, though, Mikhail gets a harpoon in the chest courtesy of Desmond. Hell yeah! Surely he's done for good now. Charlie asks the dying woman for the code to turn of the jammer, which turns out to be Good Vibrations by the Beach Boys. It only could be Charlie who could turn off the jammer, then. He's a musician, and would know that thing by heart. Even if Desmond's noble offer had been taken, he wouldn't have been able to do it.
Now for down on the beach. Ah, well it looks like there's some more dissent in the ranks, and Tom didn't kill our three intrepid marksmen. I'll say, this whole season Ben has seemed almost infallible. He was always in control of the situation to every detail. To see his world crumbling around him, and the situation spiraling madly out of his control makes for some damn fine television. He's human after all. So yeah, Sawyer and Juliet are outnumbered an outgunned. How are they going to mount a rescue? Enter Hurley, in one of the biggest FUCK YEAH! moments in the whole show so far. He gets his van and plows right over one of the Others. Hey, there's a gun! Sayid steps up in the chaos and has another moment of badassery when he snaps a guy's neck with his legs. Then Sawyer executes Tom. Hasta La Vista, Baby. Oh, and they all owe Hurley an apology, now.
Back to Looking Glass. Charlie enters in the code, and deactivates the jammer. There's a signal coming through, and holy crap! It's Penny! She has a bombshell to drop, though. That boat out there that Naomi is from? It's not hers. Ben just might be right. Just like that, what was a glimmer of hope has turned to an omen of doom. Damn you, show! Things get worse, though. Mikhail shows up outside the window with a grenade (how much does it take to frakking kill this guy?!?!?!?) Boom goes the window, and water floods the room. Charlie makes the ultimate sacrifice and seals the door to save Desmond. He quickly writes on his hand "Not Penny's Boat" and shows Desmond the urgent message. Then Charlie dies.
Poor guy. He's had his ups and downs as a character, but his heart has almost always been in the right place (expect for that "make Locke suffer" phase.) I'm sad to see him go. There is some poetry, though, in the fact that Desmond has spent most of the season saving Charlie's life, only for Charlie to die saving Desmond's. The episode isn't over yet, though.
At the radio tower, they shut off Rousseau's signal, and Naomi contacts her boat. She's cut short by a knife to back from Locke. What the hell, man? Ok, ok, he's (rather selfishly) sabotaged their efforts to get off the island before, but now he's murdered someone in cold blood. That's crossing the line. I'm unable to see Locke as anything but an antagonist, now. I'm sure the rest of the survivors feel the same way. They rejoice as they gets a signal through and rescue seems imminent, but we the viewers are now feeling a sense of dread at what should be the happiest event in the show.
We finish up the episode with the flashback, in which Jack finally gets the person that's been hanging up on him to meet him. So, he goes to meet the person and it's Kate.
Wait, what?
This isn't a flashback! It's a flash forward! They've been rescued already, and are off the island. Jack insists that they have to go back. Why, we aren't told. There's the explanation for his behavior, though. Um, whoa. That caught me by surprise. I had been saying for a while it was time to shake up to flashback formula. Is this how they do it? Are they going to show the survivors after they get off the island, while they're still on the island in the present? That would be pretty awesome, actually. It's almost like moving the story ahead at double speed.
This episode (along with the one before it) is one of the absolute highlights of the series so far. The status quo is destroyed. I can't wait to start season four now. I can also see why you were all so impatient for me to review this. Well, there. I loved it. You happy?
One of the best aspects of LOST was how when you think there isn't that much more story to tell the writers pull back more layers and you realize there is still a ton of stuff to be told.
That's one of the aspects I liked so much about this finale because it seemingly now forces two adversaries to put aside their differences to unite against a New Unknown Threat. Seemingly because Ben lies without blinking an eye. He's like the boy who cried wolf. He's lied so often that when people really do need to believe him they don't.
Who is this New Threat? How do they even know of the island but don't know where it is? What do they want with it?
This episode is also another reason why I'm glad I avoided spoilers for the series. Reading what is going to happen would have seriously ruined the visceral thrill of seeing it all unfold. I gotta hand it to the writers they totally had me fooled. I thought it was a flashback the whole time and there really wasn't a clue to suggest it wasn't since Jack said to the doctor to get "his dad down here". I was floored to see Kate emerge as the person Jack was meeting. Had they actually met before they crashed yet pretended not to for some unknown reason? Then it hit me this wasn't a flashback but a scene from the future. It was jarring to see Jack be so out of control.
I thought Charlie's exit couldn't have been handled any better. It was a perfect execution of a character death given the appropriate build up and then making the death itself haunting and not some abrupt death simply treated as a plot point that if you blink you'd miss it which a lot of shows have gotten into the bad habit of doing. There were still a lot of stuff going on but Charlie's story got the right amount of screentime dedicated to it.
The whole sequence was marvelously constructed wringing out every last bit of tension it could. I loved the way they teased us by setting it up with "Greatest Hits" getting us all ready for his sacrifice then pulling back from it when he finds the Looking Glass not flooded. Then Desmond is forced to take shelter from Mikhail by going down there so in the back of my mind I'm thinking Desmond might save him yet again. Afterall that makes the most sense given that Desmond told Charlie if he died the others would be rescued.
I'm thinking the writers aren't about to let them get off the island yet so Desmond'll save Charlie removing that escape. Then I'm experiencing the same anxiety as Charlie as he gets ready to flip the switch and then nothing happens. So far so good. Then Mikhail shows up. Then it all starting coming together.
I thought his death was excellently done. It is how I would imagine someone would react to realizing your death is imminent and inevitable. Once the fear washes over him, he resigns himself to his fate waiting for the water to fill the room. The death scene itself struck me as having a very religiously-infused feel to it. The whole presentation was dramatically genuine.
The following scenes of whether Desmond would warn them before it was too late were just as expertly constructed and as nail-biting. I just loved the second by second changing events executed in a bam-bam-bam rapid pace sequence. Uh huh, the signal is no longer being jammed but there still is time before she can dial out because they have to deactivate Rousseau's message. Then I'm like "will she get through now?". No she needs to go outside. Then it's ringing. Then Naomi's killed from behind. Was it Desmond--no. It's Locke. Now is Locke going to shoot Jack(I'm thinking the writers would do it and so would Locke) Then Jack talks to them. So we're left wondering if they'll find the island now? That entire sequence was great! Twists galore, tension-filled, exciting, unpredictable, dizzying. That's why I consider LOST the best series I've ever seen when it comes to just pure plot structuring.
It was also nice to finally actually see the Radio tower after we had heard so much about it for the past 3 seasons and the final reveal in that wide shot couldn't have been handled any better.
I also liked the way Hurley came in as the cavalry with the Dharma van. It also made "Tricia Tanaka" not a complete waste of time since the van was a nicely planted seed and provided a plausible way for Hurley to save the day and be included in the finale. It was nice for a change they he got to be a hero and get into the thick of things.
It was nice Rousseau was reunited with Alex and I loved the way Danielle with this stoic expression elbowed Ben in the face--a little scene that says so much. The finale also came up with a sublime reason for why we had seen Ben trying to keep Karl away from Alex--most parents would do it to because she's 16 and don't want a pregnancy but Ben has more of incentive to prevent her from conceiving on the island based on what we've recently learned--pregnant women die.
That's one of the aspects I liked so much about this finale because it seemingly now forces two adversaries to put aside their differences to unite against a New Unknown Threat. Seemingly because Ben lies without blinking an eye. He's like the boy who cried wolf. He's lied so often that when people really do need to believe him they don't.
Who is this New Threat? How do they even know of the island but don't know where it is? What do they want with it?
This episode is also another reason why I'm glad I avoided spoilers for the series. Reading what is going to happen would have seriously ruined the visceral thrill of seeing it all unfold. I gotta hand it to the writers they totally had me fooled. I thought it was a flashback the whole time and there really wasn't a clue to suggest it wasn't since Jack said to the doctor to get "his dad down here". I was floored to see Kate emerge as the person Jack was meeting. Had they actually met before they crashed yet pretended not to for some unknown reason? Then it hit me this wasn't a flashback but a scene from the future. It was jarring to see Jack be so out of control.
I thought Charlie's exit couldn't have been handled any better. It was a perfect execution of a character death given the appropriate build up and then making the death itself haunting and not some abrupt death simply treated as a plot point that if you blink you'd miss it which a lot of shows have gotten into the bad habit of doing. There were still a lot of stuff going on but Charlie's story got the right amount of screentime dedicated to it.
The whole sequence was marvelously constructed wringing out every last bit of tension it could. I loved the way they teased us by setting it up with "Greatest Hits" getting us all ready for his sacrifice then pulling back from it when he finds the Looking Glass not flooded. Then Desmond is forced to take shelter from Mikhail by going down there so in the back of my mind I'm thinking Desmond might save him yet again. Afterall that makes the most sense given that Desmond told Charlie if he died the others would be rescued.
I'm thinking the writers aren't about to let them get off the island yet so Desmond'll save Charlie removing that escape. Then I'm experiencing the same anxiety as Charlie as he gets ready to flip the switch and then nothing happens. So far so good. Then Mikhail shows up. Then it all starting coming together.
I thought his death was excellently done. It is how I would imagine someone would react to realizing your death is imminent and inevitable. Once the fear washes over him, he resigns himself to his fate waiting for the water to fill the room. The death scene itself struck me as having a very religiously-infused feel to it. The whole presentation was dramatically genuine.
The following scenes of whether Desmond would warn them before it was too late were just as expertly constructed and as nail-biting. I just loved the second by second changing events executed in a bam-bam-bam rapid pace sequence. Uh huh, the signal is no longer being jammed but there still is time before she can dial out because they have to deactivate Rousseau's message. Then I'm like "will she get through now?". No she needs to go outside. Then it's ringing. Then Naomi's killed from behind. Was it Desmond--no. It's Locke. Now is Locke going to shoot Jack(I'm thinking the writers would do it and so would Locke) Then Jack talks to them. So we're left wondering if they'll find the island now? That entire sequence was great! Twists galore, tension-filled, exciting, unpredictable, dizzying. That's why I consider LOST the best series I've ever seen when it comes to just pure plot structuring.
It was also nice to finally actually see the Radio tower after we had heard so much about it for the past 3 seasons and the final reveal in that wide shot couldn't have been handled any better.
I also liked the way Hurley came in as the cavalry with the Dharma van. It also made "Tricia Tanaka" not a complete waste of time since the van was a nicely planted seed and provided a plausible way for Hurley to save the day and be included in the finale. It was nice for a change they he got to be a hero and get into the thick of things.
It was nice Rousseau was reunited with Alex and I loved the way Danielle with this stoic expression elbowed Ben in the face--a little scene that says so much. The finale also came up with a sublime reason for why we had seen Ben trying to keep Karl away from Alex--most parents would do it to because she's 16 and don't want a pregnancy but Ben has more of incentive to prevent her from conceiving on the island based on what we've recently learned--pregnant women die.
Apparently we're not a very patient group. 
Really, OdoWan, what could have been more important than seeing this episode?
Even though I knew about Charlie's death in advance - thanks to someone dropping a spoiler into a completely unrelated thread
- it still made a hell of an impact. I liked Charlie well enough but I hadn't expected to be as affected by his demise as I was.Now get on with season 4.
Absolutely true. It would have taken very few changes to make this episode work as the finale to entire series. Honestly, get rid of the "Not" in "Not Penny's Boat," and the show could be over. Penny's boat shows up and rescues everyone! Yay! The show is over, and everybody is happy!
But no...it just had to be Not Penny's Boat.
Hm, interesting. I always took this as Ben had planned all along to trick Jack into thinking he was killing his friends, but that he'd instructed Tom to fire the bullets into the air and not actually kill anyone. Not that he knew everything that would happen, but that there was kind of a standing agreement that if such a situation were to arise this is how it would be handled.
Then again, they don't have a code for "there's a man in my closet with a gun to my daughter's head" so what do I know?
And here we go!
The Beginning of the End:
Seeing as there's still three seasons left, it's not quite the beginning of the end, but I'll trust them.
So, spirits are high amongst the survivors as rescue seems imminent. We the viewers, know that the boat is "Not Penny's Boat," though. Desmond knows this too, and brings back two pieces of grim news to the people on the beach. God do I feel for Hurley in this episode. Charlie was his best bud on the island. It's gotta be crushing for him. Yet this gives him a resolve, as he decides to make sure that Charlie didn't die in vain. They set off to warn the other survivors that it's not Penny's boat.
By the radio tower, things are starting to get a little tense. The man on the other end of the phone wants to speak to Naomi, but there's a little problem there, of course. She's not quite dead, though. So, they have to find her. Kate nicks the satellite phone from Jack in the mean time. Jack, Ben, and Rousseau follow a dummy trail while Kate finds the real one. She comes across Naomi, who rejiggers the phone, and then dies.
In the jungle, Hurley gets separated from the rest of the team, and ends up in a place he really doesn't want to be: Jacob's cabin. He looks inside and sees a man in a suit. Then someone else pops up in the window and scares him. He runs in the opposite direction, but finds himself back at the cabin. What the? Then who should he run into but Locke? The two have words, and then catch up with the rest of the jungle trekkers. Of course, people aren't happy with Locke. There's little time for arguing, though as everyone converges at the same spot. Hurley volunteers to be the one to tell Claire of Charlie's death, and both of them break down. I'll admit, I just about broke down, myself. Jack breaks the moment up when he jumps Locke and holds him at gunpoint. Jack has been pushed to the edge here. He truly is ready to kill Locke. Locke is only saved by the fact that the gun was not loaded. I was really not expecting Jack to pull that trigger. He has come such a long way from where he was in the beginning.
This all culminates in the splitting of the survivors. Hurley, Claire, Sawyer, Alex, Karl, Rousseau, and Ben (after humorously asking permission from Jack) all go with Lock. Jack and Kate see a parachutist come down to island, and the man asks for Jack.
The Flash forward starts us with Jack drinking and watching TV. Is there anything good on? Yeah, there's Hurley involved in a high speed chase. He saw something at a convenience store that spooked him, so he booked it. While in the interrogation room, he sees Charlie swim up to the mirror. Looks like Hurley may be cracking up. He asks to be placed back in the mental hospital. While he's there, he has a visit from a mysterious man. The man claims to represent Oceanic, but has no credentials. Hurley knows something is up with this guy.
That's not the end of weird conversations for Hurley. His next one is with a most certainly dead Charlie. Charlie is what Hurley saw in the store that scared him. Charlie says that Hurley is avoiding something that he needs to do, and that "they need him." Hurley gets another visitor, this time a known quantity: Jack. Jack plays some basketball with Hurley, and asks him if he's going to tell. Going to tell what? What did Jack do? Hurley then indicates that they need to return to the island. Something is calling them back there. Jack scoffs at this, but something tells me he'll come around soon enough.
The Beginning of the End:
Seeing as there's still three seasons left, it's not quite the beginning of the end, but I'll trust them.
So, spirits are high amongst the survivors as rescue seems imminent. We the viewers, know that the boat is "Not Penny's Boat," though. Desmond knows this too, and brings back two pieces of grim news to the people on the beach. God do I feel for Hurley in this episode. Charlie was his best bud on the island. It's gotta be crushing for him. Yet this gives him a resolve, as he decides to make sure that Charlie didn't die in vain. They set off to warn the other survivors that it's not Penny's boat.
By the radio tower, things are starting to get a little tense. The man on the other end of the phone wants to speak to Naomi, but there's a little problem there, of course. She's not quite dead, though. So, they have to find her. Kate nicks the satellite phone from Jack in the mean time. Jack, Ben, and Rousseau follow a dummy trail while Kate finds the real one. She comes across Naomi, who rejiggers the phone, and then dies.
In the jungle, Hurley gets separated from the rest of the team, and ends up in a place he really doesn't want to be: Jacob's cabin. He looks inside and sees a man in a suit. Then someone else pops up in the window and scares him. He runs in the opposite direction, but finds himself back at the cabin. What the? Then who should he run into but Locke? The two have words, and then catch up with the rest of the jungle trekkers. Of course, people aren't happy with Locke. There's little time for arguing, though as everyone converges at the same spot. Hurley volunteers to be the one to tell Claire of Charlie's death, and both of them break down. I'll admit, I just about broke down, myself. Jack breaks the moment up when he jumps Locke and holds him at gunpoint. Jack has been pushed to the edge here. He truly is ready to kill Locke. Locke is only saved by the fact that the gun was not loaded. I was really not expecting Jack to pull that trigger. He has come such a long way from where he was in the beginning.
This all culminates in the splitting of the survivors. Hurley, Claire, Sawyer, Alex, Karl, Rousseau, and Ben (after humorously asking permission from Jack) all go with Lock. Jack and Kate see a parachutist come down to island, and the man asks for Jack.
The Flash forward starts us with Jack drinking and watching TV. Is there anything good on? Yeah, there's Hurley involved in a high speed chase. He saw something at a convenience store that spooked him, so he booked it. While in the interrogation room, he sees Charlie swim up to the mirror. Looks like Hurley may be cracking up. He asks to be placed back in the mental hospital. While he's there, he has a visit from a mysterious man. The man claims to represent Oceanic, but has no credentials. Hurley knows something is up with this guy.
That's not the end of weird conversations for Hurley. His next one is with a most certainly dead Charlie. Charlie is what Hurley saw in the store that scared him. Charlie says that Hurley is avoiding something that he needs to do, and that "they need him." Hurley gets another visitor, this time a known quantity: Jack. Jack plays some basketball with Hurley, and asks him if he's going to tell. Going to tell what? What did Jack do? Hurley then indicates that they need to return to the island. Something is calling them back there. Jack scoffs at this, but something tells me he'll come around soon enough.
I love S4 and 5--they are the two most consistent seasons for the show and as such it is hard picking my favorite--so I don't and say they are tied. The end of season 3 and these two seasons really mark a remarkably creative period.
And what I liked too about the S4 premiere was it addressed all the dangling threads from the previous season finale right off the bat instead of just picking up on one and devoting the hour to it while the others are not seen. I also thought it was a really clever way the writers answered the main question about who makes it off the island with the idea of the Oceanic Six. Also the car Hurley is driving was the one we saw back in "Tricia Tanaka" he was going to work with his dad to fix up and you gotta love Danielle and the way she drags poor Ben around on a leash
. And I liked the way they introduced the mysterious new threat with the parachutist. Last season built them up as a mysterious ominous faceless force and what do we see a nerdy looking fellow--great cliffhanger.
Confirmed Dead:
Meet the new crew!
Ok, Daniel is a scientist and kind of a dork.
Miles is a ghost whisperer and kind of a dick.
Charlotte is an archeologist that finds a polar bear skeleton in the desert with a Dharma Hydra symbol on a collar. Ooooooooookay.
Frank is a pilot that was supposed to be flying 815 that day. He sees footage of the dead bodies on the news (which would never ever happen in real life) and realizes that there's something fishy, since the pilot is not wearing his wedding ring.
So, introducing new characters again. Will they be another Juliet and Ben, or another Nikki and Paulo?
The guy that Jack and Kate met is Daniel. They trek through the jungle a bit and start getting suspicious of him once they notice he has a gun. He also admits to them (after they find some hazmat suits) that rescuing them is not the primary objective. They track down Miles who immediately points a gun at them because he believes them to have killed Naomi. They try to explain it was Locke, and Miles believes him after doing his thing. Between this and Jacob, it would seem the writers have finally thrown any and all rational scientific explanations out the window. This is pure supernatural, now.
Meanwhile, Locke has decided his crew is going to detour to Jacob's cabin. Hurley lets slip that he's been there, much to the surprise of Locke and Ben. The cabin is nowhere to be found, though. Well, huh. Locke also tells everyone that Walt was the one giving him orders. I think they might be starting to doubt his sanity. Ben goads Sawyer a bit about the love triangle, and Sawyer retaliates. Does Ben enjoy getting the crap beat out of him? That's what he had to know would happen. Though I like the character, I have to admit he's totally deserved it every time. Anyways, they come across Charlotte and take her hostage.
Jack's crew finds Frank, the pilot. He's a good pilot, too as he set down the helicopter safely. Looks like they really can leave. Franks gets to talking to Juliet and realizes that she's not a crash survivor. Miles goes nuts at hearing this and reveals the reason that they were there: They're looking for Ben. If that's the case, why did Naomi have a picture of Desmond and Penny? Why did she tell Desmond they were looking for him? Oh, and who are these people, and why are they looking for Ben?
Back at Locke's camp, Ben gets his hands on a gun, and puts two rounds in Charlotte's chest. She's saved by the old bullet-proof vest cliche. Ben then reveals that he knows every single little detail about all of the people on this crew, and that he has a man on their boat.
Meet the new crew!
Ok, Daniel is a scientist and kind of a dork.
Miles is a ghost whisperer and kind of a dick.
Charlotte is an archeologist that finds a polar bear skeleton in the desert with a Dharma Hydra symbol on a collar. Ooooooooookay.
Frank is a pilot that was supposed to be flying 815 that day. He sees footage of the dead bodies on the news (which would never ever happen in real life) and realizes that there's something fishy, since the pilot is not wearing his wedding ring.
So, introducing new characters again. Will they be another Juliet and Ben, or another Nikki and Paulo?
The guy that Jack and Kate met is Daniel. They trek through the jungle a bit and start getting suspicious of him once they notice he has a gun. He also admits to them (after they find some hazmat suits) that rescuing them is not the primary objective. They track down Miles who immediately points a gun at them because he believes them to have killed Naomi. They try to explain it was Locke, and Miles believes him after doing his thing. Between this and Jacob, it would seem the writers have finally thrown any and all rational scientific explanations out the window. This is pure supernatural, now.
Meanwhile, Locke has decided his crew is going to detour to Jacob's cabin. Hurley lets slip that he's been there, much to the surprise of Locke and Ben. The cabin is nowhere to be found, though. Well, huh. Locke also tells everyone that Walt was the one giving him orders. I think they might be starting to doubt his sanity. Ben goads Sawyer a bit about the love triangle, and Sawyer retaliates. Does Ben enjoy getting the crap beat out of him? That's what he had to know would happen. Though I like the character, I have to admit he's totally deserved it every time. Anyways, they come across Charlotte and take her hostage.
Jack's crew finds Frank, the pilot. He's a good pilot, too as he set down the helicopter safely. Looks like they really can leave. Franks gets to talking to Juliet and realizes that she's not a crash survivor. Miles goes nuts at hearing this and reveals the reason that they were there: They're looking for Ben. If that's the case, why did Naomi have a picture of Desmond and Penny? Why did she tell Desmond they were looking for him? Oh, and who are these people, and why are they looking for Ben?
Back at Locke's camp, Ben gets his hands on a gun, and puts two rounds in Charlotte's chest. She's saved by the old bullet-proof vest cliche. Ben then reveals that he knows every single little detail about all of the people on this crew, and that he has a man on their boat.
"Confirmed Dead" was a great episode.
One aspect I really liked about LOST was how even though it had a bunch of weird fantasy elements it still gave us realistic touches that helped give the series a sense of conviction. For instance, I loved the whole idea of a group sending a remote camera down to unveil the wreckage of 815 on the ocean's floor. It was a great shocking moment and it was nice to see this thread come back into the story after teasing us with it with Naomi last season.
The writers also continued to play with the structure still having all the storylines included in the same episode and giving us not one, not two, not 3 but 4 character flashbacks. And the revelations and teases just kept coming and coming--Frank was to be the pilot, Charlotte finds the remains of a polar bear with a Dharma collar in of all places Tunisia, Miles can talk to the dead seemingly etc. I also loved the way the writers toyed with the audience about whether the helicopter was destroyed eliminating yet *another* possible way off the island.
One of my faves from the entire series.
One aspect I really liked about LOST was how even though it had a bunch of weird fantasy elements it still gave us realistic touches that helped give the series a sense of conviction. For instance, I loved the whole idea of a group sending a remote camera down to unveil the wreckage of 815 on the ocean's floor. It was a great shocking moment and it was nice to see this thread come back into the story after teasing us with it with Naomi last season.
The writers also continued to play with the structure still having all the storylines included in the same episode and giving us not one, not two, not 3 but 4 character flashbacks. And the revelations and teases just kept coming and coming--Frank was to be the pilot, Charlotte finds the remains of a polar bear with a Dharma collar in of all places Tunisia, Miles can talk to the dead seemingly etc. I also loved the way the writers toyed with the audience about whether the helicopter was destroyed eliminating yet *another* possible way off the island.
One of my faves from the entire series.
I had the feeling I was going to like Daniel, Charlotte, Miles and Frank the first time I saw them. They were cool and mysterious in their first episode and I wanted to find out more about them, unlike Nikki and Paulo whom were just annoying. I really find it amusing how to this day, fans still complain about how much Nikki and Paulo sucked.
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This is and interesting episode is that the flash forward is infinitely more interesting than what is happening on the island. We see Sayid, he's on a golf course, and is now apparently a hit-man. After dispatching the man on the golf course, he picks up his next mark in a cafe in Berlin. He mentions he's one of the Oceanic Six, as well. Hurley also made mention of this. Did only six of the survivors make it off the island? What happened, and who are the rest of them?
Back on the island, now. The freighter crew wants to get Charlotte back, so Sayid offers to retrieve her if Frank will agree to take him to the freighter. He brings Miles and Kate along with him. When they reach the barracks, they find Hurley tied up. He claims that Locke has gone off the deep end, and abandoned him. Sayid also finds a secret room in Ben's house containing a whole lot of clothes, money, and passports. Has Ben been doing a little traveling behind everyone's back? Well, Hurley's capture was a ruse, and the team gets captured by Locke's crew. Sayid trades Miles and Kate for Charlotte (sneaky bastard) and heads back to the helicopter.
Meanwhile, Daniel is conducting some kind of experiment. He sets up a transceiver of sorts and has a payload sent, but it doesn't arrive when the woman on the boat says it will. Instead, it arrives half an hour later. The clock on the missile that arrives is half an hour ahead of Daniels watch. What does this mean? Did something delay the missile, or is the island displace in time by half an hour from the rest the of world? Also, Desmond has insisted that he come along on the copter ride, after seeing the picture of Penny.
In the flash forward, Sayid gets really cozy with his mark (apparently, he has a thing for blonds.) They are forced to reveal their true identity to each other, though. She shoots him in the shoulder, and he kills her. Sayid gets medical attention for his wounded shoulder from his employer. His employer is Ben.
What the hell? What happened? Why in god's name is Sayid working for Ben? Must know!
I gotta say, the flash forwards were a masterstroke the have breathed new life into this series. It's like we're getting twice the Lost at once, even though the episode lengths are the same. I can see why many say this is their favorite part of the series.
This is and interesting episode is that the flash forward is infinitely more interesting than what is happening on the island. We see Sayid, he's on a golf course, and is now apparently a hit-man. After dispatching the man on the golf course, he picks up his next mark in a cafe in Berlin. He mentions he's one of the Oceanic Six, as well. Hurley also made mention of this. Did only six of the survivors make it off the island? What happened, and who are the rest of them?
Back on the island, now. The freighter crew wants to get Charlotte back, so Sayid offers to retrieve her if Frank will agree to take him to the freighter. He brings Miles and Kate along with him. When they reach the barracks, they find Hurley tied up. He claims that Locke has gone off the deep end, and abandoned him. Sayid also finds a secret room in Ben's house containing a whole lot of clothes, money, and passports. Has Ben been doing a little traveling behind everyone's back? Well, Hurley's capture was a ruse, and the team gets captured by Locke's crew. Sayid trades Miles and Kate for Charlotte (sneaky bastard) and heads back to the helicopter.
Meanwhile, Daniel is conducting some kind of experiment. He sets up a transceiver of sorts and has a payload sent, but it doesn't arrive when the woman on the boat says it will. Instead, it arrives half an hour later. The clock on the missile that arrives is half an hour ahead of Daniels watch. What does this mean? Did something delay the missile, or is the island displace in time by half an hour from the rest the of world? Also, Desmond has insisted that he come along on the copter ride, after seeing the picture of Penny.
In the flash forward, Sayid gets really cozy with his mark (apparently, he has a thing for blonds.) They are forced to reveal their true identity to each other, though. She shoots him in the shoulder, and he kills her. Sayid gets medical attention for his wounded shoulder from his employer. His employer is Ben.
What the hell? What happened? Why in god's name is Sayid working for Ben? Must know!
I gotta say, the flash forwards were a masterstroke the have breathed new life into this series. It's like we're getting twice the Lost at once, even though the episode lengths are the same. I can see why many say this is their favorite part of the series.
Before you said you can only see Locke as an antagonist. How about now?
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