"Lost" Episode?

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Wow somehow I feel honored to have inspired a popular thread.

In addition to just having seen Violations, which is positively surreal, I haven't seen ANY TAS.

I've only seen Cogenitor once, wasn't thrilled but then it got the Jammer 4 star rating. I hope I see it again! It deserves anopther shot.

There are also some VOY eps I missed.

 

[erastus25]

It was a two hour special and a tie in to TNG, with interviews with GR and the cast of TNG entering the second season!!

Ah, that's good. The one hour version that my local affiliate showed in the '90s was incredibly lame. This two hour thing was basically a result of the writer's strike, right? Didn't they air The Cage as a way to get more Trek on the air during the strike shortened season?

Something like that.. It was a cool special and they aired the Cage in its entirety, and completely in colour. I was in hog heaven.. In the nineties it was included in the TOS syndication package and edited down to 41 minutes or something like that..

It would be great if they dug up and restored the Smithsonian version of WNMHGB. I'd love to see that all cleaned up instead of my crappy 200th generation VHS copy.

To add to the further bastardization of WNMHGB, they use the opening credits from season 1 on the DVD and not the true, sans voiceover credits. They really do need to restore the Smithsonian version. The DVD copy of The Twilight Zone has an alternate version of its pilot, and it is kind of cool to compare the original concept to the one actually used on the air.

 

[nx1701g]

I'll be honest - I have seen every episode.

 

[number6]

Ah, that's good. The one hour version that my local affiliate showed in the '90s was incredibly lame. This two hour thing was basically a result of the writer's strike, right? Didn't they air The Cage as a way to get more Trek on the air during the strike shortened season?

Something like that.. It was a cool special and they aired the Cage in its entirety, and completely in colour. I was in hog heaven.. In the nineties it was included in the TOS syndication package and edited down to 41 minutes or something like that..

It would be great if they dug up and restored the Smithsonian version of WNMHGB. I'd love to see that all cleaned up instead of my crappy 200th generation VHS copy.

To add to the further bastardization of WNMHGB, they use the opening credits from season 1 on the DVD and not the true, sans voiceover credits. They really do need to restore the Smithsonian version. The DVD copy of The Twilight Zone has an alternate version of its pilot, and it is kind of cool to compare the original concept to the one actually used on the air.

I hadn't noticed that, though I did notice that they remixed the bridge and transporter SFX and I found that to be kind of diappointing. I still have the first DVD version and a VHS kicking around, so I can always check out those if I ever need to, but it was a shame that the 5.1 versions weren't as true to the original as I would have liked, but then again I do like the remastered version, too. Go figure, Six of One...

Wouldn't that be a great bonus in the Third Season DVD, along with the Cage!! I suppose there's still a chance to lobby for it. If anyone knows who to contact about something like this, please share.

 

[greenmystik]

I always forget about TAS. I don't think I really consider it to be canon. I know it is but it was so brief, almost like a dream.

 

[TGTheodore]

Some Season Three of Enterprise. I was busy into my own writing projects and I just didn't care for the season-long arc with the Xindi. (Although I LOVED the fact that Florida had been sliced in half. A comment on how the hijinx in Florida, deliberate or otherwise, ruined the election of 2000).

I know there are a few Voyager and DS9 episodes I haven't seen, or haven't seen all the way through. When I see one on Spike TV, it's a bit of a treat. I liked both shows, but between directing and writing theater, and composing music, I didn't have time to catch them all.

And I've only seen five or six TAS episodes. Maybe one weekend I'll buy the set and pig out on the sofa.

--Ted

 

[Jptrekker]

I haven't seen much of TAS, only some of the heavily edited episodes that aired here in Germany.

How much could they have cut out of a 22 minute episode?

 

[Michael]

I haven't seen much of TAS, only some of the heavily edited episodes that aired here in Germany.

How much could they have cut out of a 22 minute episode?

Oh, believe me, a lot! Many episodes were cut to only 15 minutes while others (four, IIRC) were left out entirely! But on top of that the dubbing was just horrible. They put words into the mouths of Kirk and company which they would've never said on TOS. But around 1994 the series was completely re-dubbed for a VHS release.

 

[Bishbot]

I know I haven't seen TNG's: The Drumhead, and I also know I should because everyone seems to love it.

I haven't seen some of ENT Season 2, or all of 3 and 4, but I don't consider those lost because I chose not to.

I think I've seen all of DS9 except Move Along Home (so I'm not exactly gagging to see it, based on its reputation)

Voyager I've probably seen all of. In hindsight who cares?

I'm sure I haven't seen all of TOS but I honestly can't remember which ones I have and haven't. I'm so familiar with all the titles, stories and images from the 79 episodes that I've actually no idea if I've seen some or just think I have - anyone else with this problem?

 

[Defcon]

I haven't seen much of TAS, only some of the heavily edited episodes that aired here in Germany.

How much could they have cut out of a 22 minute episode?

Oh, believe me, a lot! Many episodes were cut to only 15 minutes while others (four, IIRC) were left out entirely! But on top of that the dubbing was just horrible. They put words into the mouths of Kirk and company which they would've never said on TOS.

What he said. I watched a few episodes during one of its runs, but they just didn't made much sense, so I never really made an effort to watch all the episodes.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

"The Drumhead" is notable for

a) being Michael Dorn's favorite episode

b) having a great quote from a FICTIONAL character... one we don't ever even SEE

 

[erastus25]

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b) having a great quote from a FICTIONAL character... one we don't ever even SEE

I know that I should know this but I just can't think of it! What's the quote?

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

" ' With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.' Those words were uttered by Judge Aaron Satie as wisdom and warning... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on we’re all damaged." - Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie
I think it applies today when I think of the Patriot Act

 

[idreamedmusic]

The Drumhead certainly seems to be even more relevant today than it was ever before. One of my fav TNG eps as well. Add in the guy who was half-Romulan and afraid to admit to it due to possible recriminations and voila!

As for lost eps, it would be "Patterns of Force" for me as well, because of the reasons stated before (never been shown on free TV in Germany). I've actually only seen it a couple months ago and it was the only TOS ep I hadn't seen since first watching the rest in the early 90s. Having finally seen it, I still don't get the point of not showing it. There's being responsible with your history and then there's going overboard. In the sense of the ep doing anything but glorifying Nazi Germany and actually being an early treatment about the whole cult surrounding supposedly charismatic leaders and the fakeness behind it all.