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Looks like Stargate is officially done

BSG didn't prove that people don't want the old format at all, it's ratings were practically identical to SG-1 and Atlantis' when they ran alongside each other, and relative to the hype, it's number were actually pretty poor. For better or worse, I'd say there's still a market for the more generic Trek style sci-fi shows. I just hope that another channel rushes into fill the niche that Syfy seems to be abandoning. Perhaps Spike will take the mantle for genre shows?

That's not true SG-1 had pretty steady ratings over it's tenure.
It was SGA and SGU that had a continous slide.

It is true. The ratings are all on Gateworld. All three series had a ratings high in the same year SG-1 was in it's 8th season, and from then on they all followed the same decline.

http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s8/ratings.shtml
http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s9/ratings.shtml
http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s10/ratings.shtml

I've seen them but I seemed you were generalizing the statement for all of SG-1. I must have missed that part from 8th season onward.
 
who seriously wants to see an SGU movie?

SGU fans, oddly enough :techman:

What?! Those exist?! I thought people only watched SGU to compete in pissing contests to see who can bitch more about it being worse than BSG.

I'd love to see an SGU movie. Shame it's not going to happen, but the closing half of this season has been solidly great, so I'm still excited to see how they end the season.
 
I wouldn't call myself a fan, but I will have invested yet more hours of my life watching a TV series only for it to be cancelled without any resolution. It's kind of pissing me off. I really ought to make it a rule never to watch any series until it has completed its run with some sort of sensible tying up of the loose threads. The only problem then is to avoid the spoilers. Maybe I should just stick with S-F literature.
 
Maybe in 20 years, the cast of SGU can reuinite to finish up the story. Sounds like a long way away, but 2031 will be here in no time.
 
Find me another sci-fi series that got close to BSG's buzz in the last 10 years. A lot of people were excited about the show and it actually brought in non-sci-fi audience.

Buzz doesn't pay the bills. :rommie:

People were excited for the franchise, not RDM's version of it which went no where except down in ratings.

:lol: It was RDM's version of the franchise that generated the buzz in the first place. The original BSG was dead and all but forgotten except for its cult fan following.
 
Maybe in 20 years, the cast of SGU can reuinite to finish up the story. Sounds like a long way away, but 2031 will be here in no time.

Never going to happen. If there is any continuation at all, it will be something cheap, either comics or novels that they know they can turn a small profit on. Even then, I don't see it happening unfortunately.
 
No surprise. The ENT producers went through the same routine of trying to shop it around, movies, what not. It didn't happen there and it certainly wasn't going to happen here.

Mr Awe

Nope. Once ENT was canceled, it was canceled. TPTB came out pretty quickly and said that they were not going to try to find another home for the show.

It was fan organizations that tried to keep it alive. They were the ones who raised money before the studio made them stop.

No, there were reported attempts of them shopping it around to places like Spike (I think). Forgetting the details but it was reported. The producers didn't say as much about it as Stargate's producers are though.

Mr Awe

No. It was done. It was never shopped. Spike was just fan speculation. Link.

]I thought that Sci Fi wanted to pick up Enterprise, but Berman wasn't interested. I don't remember anyone on Paramount's end trying to shop it around.

There might have been some very minor rumblings, but Paramount was done with Trek at that point and had no interest in shopping it. http://www.trektoday.com/news/120405_02.shtml
 
I don't think this is the 'end' end. If anything this might led to a Star Trek (2009) return/reboot to the movies. I think the Stargate concept is just too viable to let languish forever. It will return in some form or fashion. It might not hurt to take it back to the movie universe and bring Kurt Russell back, along with a new supporting cast. As much as I would like a franchise based more on the movie to include TV show elements, I'm not wedded to the idea. Plus the Stargate doesn't preclude the idea of an alternate timeline/dimension similar to what was done with Stargate to retain the TV shows but go in a different direction.
 
Find me another sci-fi series that got close to BSG's buzz in the last 10 years. A lot of people were excited about the show and it actually brought in non-sci-fi audience.

Buzz doesn't pay the bills. :rommie:

People were excited for the franchise, not RDM's version of it which went no where except down in ratings.

:lol: It was RDM's version of the franchise that generated the buzz in the first place. The original BSG was dead and all but forgotten except for its cult fan following.

Is the Glen A. Larson / Bryan Singer feature film sequel/remake dead?
 
Buzz doesn't pay the bills. :rommie:

People were excited for the franchise, not RDM's version of it which went no where except down in ratings.

:lol: It was RDM's version of the franchise that generated the buzz in the first place. The original BSG was dead and all but forgotten except for its cult fan following.

Is the Glen A. Larson / Bryan Singer feature film sequel/remake dead?

As far as I know, yeah. At best, it's in development hell.
 
SGU didn't work because the writing just wasn't there, period. They tried the gritty feel of BSG, but the SGU charcters just weren't interesting enough to hold our interest.

I think a TNG-style SF show may well work again if it's well-written, as TNG was in its prime. And after almost a decade of dark, gritty SF shows, it might be high time for a more light hearted space opera once again.

Sean
 
With BSG's success, you can't go back to the old Trek-ish sci-fi TV formula.

And SGU getting it's ass handed to it by TNG reruns in the ratings department (from what I've heard elsewhere in this forum.) pretty much debunks that.

To my knowledge the only source for that 'info' was a known bullshitter. I'd be very surprised if it were accurate.

I think a TNG-style SF show may well work again if it's well-written, as TNG was in its prime. And after almost a decade of dark, gritty SF shows, it might be high time for a more light hearted space opera once again.
From a commercial standpoint that time never ended, if it has the classic sci-fi tropes, then bubblegum sci-fi is really the only type that can survive these days.
 
SGU didn't work because the writing just wasn't there, period. They tried the gritty feel of BSG, but the SGU charcters just weren't interesting enough to hold our interest.

I think a TNG-style SF show may well work again if it's well-written, as TNG was in its prime. And after almost a decade of dark, gritty SF shows, it might be high time for a more light hearted space opera once again.

Sean

Exactly right.

Think about it.
Stargate in general has never been about smart writing it was good writing with standardized beatable villains, it was about the fun, the adventure, the character's experiences and their good intentions.

While TNG wasn't just about beatable characters, it had truly difficult villains as well. Both SG and TNG had villains we loved to hate. Anubis, Apophsis , Baal, and Q, Lore, Duras but these villains weren't just beatable they were there to make our Heroes better. Like a test.
 
SGU didn't work because the writing just wasn't there, period. They tried the gritty feel of BSG, but the SGU charcters just weren't interesting enough to hold our interest.

I think a TNG-style SF show may well work again if it's well-written, as TNG was in its prime. And after almost a decade of dark, gritty SF shows, it might be high time for a more light hearted space opera once again.

Sean

Exactly right.

Think about it.
Stargate in general has never been about smart writing it was good writing with standardized beatable villains, it was about the fun, the adventure, the character's experiences and their good intentions.

While TNG wasn't just about beatable characters, it had truly difficult villains as well. Both SG and TNG had villains we loved to hate. Anubis, Apophsis , Baal, and Q, Lore, Duras but these villains weren't just beatable they were there to make our Heroes better. Like a test.

why didn't they do this? why not stick to what you're good at? i know, i know, they should test their boundaries as writers, but they could have done these gritty eps once a season to test the waters. like have a few members of the crew deserted on a planet.
 
Because no one involved wanted to make more of the same. The writers wanted to do something more worthwhile, and the MGM and Syfy wanted to attract younger viewers to the franchise as the demos Atlantis was pulling in were old as hell. SGU hit the right demo's, just no where near the right numbers.
 
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