Looks like Stargate is officially done

[The Wormhole]

^^Not really. Based on what we know from SGU episodes which have already aired, the only things that need to be resolved aregetting everyone home, and Destiny's mission.

Honestly, Destiny's mission isn't even all that interesting, so getting home is the only thing that's really a must see. And even then, spoilers I've read for the finale indicate a unique ending which will satisfy, but will probably piss everyone else off.

 

[AJ86]

I can't say I agree about Destiny's mission, I can't think of any mystery more interesting, certainly not within Stargate mythology anyway. As for seeing them get home, I'd be very surprised if that was ever the plan. It doesn't even seem like something worth seeing to me. I'd rather see them solve the mystery and be left stranded than see them randomly find a way home.

 

[Electric Coleslaw]

It did, because they did not need this big shift in the premise of the show. If they wanted to be more hard core they could have done this in SGA.

Killing SGA prematurely to replace it with a harder darker SGU was the wrong move, and put the nail in the coffin.

It's a shame because I'm actually enjoying this season much more than I did the other ones. Kind of like ENT, just when it gets good, they cancel it.

The problem I see with getting darker was that they went too far right away. After the first two series which were light-hearted in a way, they went dark with the pilot. Maybe they should have got there in a gradual way? But really, the biggest problem I had with SGU was the same I had with SGA. Boring characters. But again, this was something that seemed to be fixed lately except for Scott who I'd like to see gone.

And finally the one thing I keep shouting at the TV when watching this show...."WILL YOU PLEASE KEEP THAT GODDAMN CAMERA STILL!!!!" All that bouncing and moving around. Enough already!

 

[Mr Awe]

No surprise. The ENT producers went through the same routine of trying to shop it around, movies, what not. It didn't happen there and it certainly wasn't going to happen here.

Mr Awe

 

[Mr Awe]

I can't say I agree about Destiny's mission, I can't think of any mystery more interesting, certainly not within Stargate mythology anyway. As for seeing them get home, I'd be very surprised if that was ever the plan. It doesn't even seem like something worth seeing to me. I'd rather see them solve the mystery and be left stranded than see them randomly find a way home.

I'm guessing they had written themselves into a corner with the mission. What could they possibly dream up that would be satisfying. It's not like they would reveal the true meaning of life, the real face of good, or anything like that. It would just be some fictional mumbo jumbo that couldn't possibly live up to expectations.

Mr Awe

 

[Robert Maxwell]

I can't say I agree about Destiny's mission, I can't think of any mystery more interesting, certainly not within Stargate mythology anyway. As for seeing them get home, I'd be very surprised if that was ever the plan. It doesn't even seem like something worth seeing to me. I'd rather see them solve the mystery and be left stranded than see them randomly find a way home.

I'm guessing they had written themselves into a corner with the mission. What could they possibly dream up that would be satisfying. It's not like they would reveal the true meaning of life, the real face of good, or anything like that. It would just be some fictional mumbo jumbo that couldn't possibly live up to expectations.

Mr Awe

There is no way they could've come up with a satisfactory conclusion for this "mission." It's all about the journey, anyway. Really, what could they have done with it? Some beings ascended before our universe came into existence and helped create and shape it? We've already got the Ancients who seeded human life throughout the galaxies (or something), so it's not like the existence of some pre-pre-Ancient super race would be any kind of shocking revelation.

It strikes me as something the Destiny crew might make baby steps toward solving over the course of the series, and at the very end they might get some big clue, but never a full-on reveal. It's the sort of thing that just wouldn't be satisfying if you put all your cards on the table.

 

[Tom]

The whole problem with the Mission thing is time. I mean Destiny has been traveling for around a million years? So is it going to reach the end of the universe during the crew's life span?? seems kind of a stretch..

 

[Brent]

^ Maybe they were gonna run into a wormhole, or have the god like aliens give em hand, who knows. That's the part I hate the most, I really did want to see how it ends.

 

[Mr Awe]

I can't say I agree about Destiny's mission, I can't think of any mystery more interesting, certainly not within Stargate mythology anyway. As for seeing them get home, I'd be very surprised if that was ever the plan. It doesn't even seem like something worth seeing to me. I'd rather see them solve the mystery and be left stranded than see them randomly find a way home.

I'm guessing they had written themselves into a corner with the mission. What could they possibly dream up that would be satisfying. It's not like they would reveal the true meaning of life, the real face of good, or anything like that. It would just be some fictional mumbo jumbo that couldn't possibly live up to expectations.

Mr Awe

There is no way they could've come up with a satisfactory conclusion for this "mission." It's all about the journey, anyway. Really, what could they have done with it? Some beings ascended before our universe came into existence and helped create and shape it? We've already got the Ancients who seeded human life throughout the galaxies (or something), so it's not like the existence of some pre-pre-Ancient super race would be any kind of shocking revelation.

It strikes me as something the Destiny crew might make baby steps toward solving over the course of the series, and at the very end they might get some big clue, but never a full-on reveal. It's the sort of thing that just wouldn't be satisfying if you put all your cards on the table.

Yep, that's what I'm saying. And, as you say, it'll be the journey that makes or break it and we've seen that so far.

So, the season finaly would suggest that there was some species from the previous universe that helped form our universe at the big bang to maximize ascension possibilities, or something like that. Trying to explain why our universe has parameters that are so perfectly tuned for life like us.

Mr Awe

 

[Xerxus]

The whole problem with the Mission thing is time. I mean Destiny has been traveling for around a million years? So is it going to reach the end of the universe during the crew's life span?? seems kind of a stretch..

It's possible that's why they introduced the stasis pods.

 

[Unimatrix Zero]

What's left for space sci-fi?

Not that I liked the emo version of SG - I did struggle thru' the first two seasons, because I love space Sci-fi. managed to watch two eps of season three and could not bear it any more.

Could it be time to serialise Clarke's Rama series and Asimov's Foundation series if there are no ideas left?

 

[Brent]

^ Doctor Who

They seem to keep coming up with good stories.

 

[Corran Horn]

They should've never let the Season Two end in such a way that (presumably) doesn't give some kind of ending. They knew what the ratings were. Obviously I haven't seen it but cast and production people keep saying 'bittersweet', not an 'ending', etc.

Joseph M is going to answer questions as to why they did what they did once "Gauntlet" airs, I guess.

 

[arch101]

[QUOTE
Killing SGA prematurely to replace it with a harder darker SGU was the wrong move, and put the nail in the coffin.[/QUOTE]

I stopped watching SGA in year two because I thought it was dreadfully dull and an SG1 rehash with less likable characters.
With BSG's success, you can't go back to the old Trek-ish sci-fi TV formula. BSG proved that is not what today's audience wants.
SGU got me watching the franchise again. I actually liked that they modified the premise to BSG-ize it. If it had been more like SGA in tone, I wouldn't have watched it.

 

[Leroy]

With BSG's success, you can't go back to the old Trek-ish sci-fi TV formula. BSG proved that is not what today's audience wants.

How do you define success didn't nuBSG's ratings get lower and lower as time went on?

 

[Temis the Vorta]

The only hope for quality space opera on TV is if Game of Thrones is a big fat hit on HBO. High fantasy is no weirder of a genre than space opera, and it would prove that fans of an existing franchise can form a successful basis for a genre that is never going to appeal to mass tastes.

Showtime (with the rights to Star Trek), take note.

 

[SG-17]

Well... I am quite sad. Stargate was one of the few shows that I enjoyed consistently for its entire run.
Both Caprica and BSG bored me for the first half of both, Deep Space 9 and Voyager couldn't keep my watching, Eureka and Warehouse 13 began to feel stale.
Yet for some reason, I don't know why, I always would watch Stargate, no matter how low it got (SGU season 1 for instance), I just couldn't stop watching.

It will be a long and painful wait, but Stargate is one of MGMs last remaining franchises (Bond being the other), they won't let it stay dead for long. Hopefully.

Luckily Doctor Who and Sanctuary aren't going anywhere anytime soon (knock on wood, fuck you SyFy), plus Godzilla is coming back next year.

 

[Broccoli]

No surprise. The ENT producers went through the same routine of trying to shop it around, movies, what not. It didn't happen there and it certainly wasn't going to happen here.

Mr Awe

Nope. Once ENT was canceled, it was canceled. TPTB came out pretty quickly and said that they were not going to try to find another home for the show.

It was fan organizations that tried to keep it alive. They were the ones who raised money before the studio made them stop.

 

[Sindatur]

I've been thinking lately a lot about how hard a Season 1 is for multi-year Arc character driven shows, S1 Universe and character building is tough to do while still providing individual episode excitement. I think that's the key, is being able to build your arc and characters in a seemingly episode based 1st season, where every episode brings excitement, and you keep people from thinking too much about the arc. Until you get to the end of S1, and the Arc simply appears from a few Finale episode revelations.

 

[AJ86]

I can't say I agree about Destiny's mission, I can't think of any mystery more interesting, certainly not within Stargate mythology anyway. As for seeing them get home, I'd be very surprised if that was ever the plan. It doesn't even seem like something worth seeing to me. I'd rather see them solve the mystery and be left stranded than see them randomly find a way home.

I'm guessing they had written themselves into a corner with the mission. What could they possibly dream up that would be satisfying. It's not like they would reveal the true meaning of life, the real face of good, or anything like that. It would just be some fictional mumbo jumbo that couldn't possibly live up to expectations.

Mr Awe

Apparently they'd had the ending planned since season 1.