Looks like Stargate is officially done

[Asbo Zaprudder]

My guess is that Destiny was intended by the ancients to seed the Big Bang of the next cycle of the cosmos, and that the message in the cosmic background radiation will turn out to be from the progenitors of this cycle - maybe by a version of Destiny in the previous one. Though that does sound a lot like nuBSG's "This has all happened before, and it will all happen again".

However, it does seem that TPTB might well reveal what they had planned.

 

[AJ86]

I'd be surprised if he revealed how they planned to finish it, I expect it will be mostly stuff about what they were planning for season 3.

 

[Brent]

I think they said they did have an end in mind, that if it came down to it they could end it in 3 years if they needed to, but could also drag it out to 5 years. They've been dragging it out hoping they would have more seasons, perhaps that was an error. After S1 ratings they should have really ramped the story up for S2 to come to some kind of a conclusion.

 

[BlobVanDam]

Well... I am quite sad. Stargate was one of the few shows that I enjoyed consistently for its entire run.
Both Caprica and BSG bored me for the first half of both, Deep Space 9 and Voyager couldn't keep my watching, Eureka and Warehouse 13 began to feel stale.
Yet for some reason, I don't know why, I always would watch Stargate, no matter how low it got (SGU season 1 for instance), I just couldn't stop watching.

It will be a long and painful wait, but Stargate is one of MGMs last remaining franchises (Bond being the other), they won't let it stay dead for long. Hopefully.

Luckily Doctor Who and Sanctuary aren't going anywhere anytime soon (knock on wood, fuck you SyFy), plus Godzilla is coming back next year.

Sanctuary and Warehouse 13 are my only scifi fixes now, although neither of those are the all-out nerdy techy spacey scifi that I love so much, like Trek and Stargate.
Still, it seems it's harder to get a good scifi show going these days.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

It does seem like the golden age of TV sci-fi space opera has passed.

 

[NKemp3]

They should've never let the Season Two end in such a way that (presumably) doesn't give some kind of ending. They knew what the ratings were. .

Season two was basically scripted by November of 2010 (if not earlier). You must remember that season two started filming while first run episodes of season one were still airing.

 

[Mr Awe]

No surprise. The ENT producers went through the same routine of trying to shop it around, movies, what not. It didn't happen there and it certainly wasn't going to happen here.

Mr Awe

Nope. Once ENT was canceled, it was canceled. TPTB came out pretty quickly and said that they were not going to try to find another home for the show.

It was fan organizations that tried to keep it alive. They were the ones who raised money before the studio made them stop.

No, there were reported attempts of them shopping it around to places like Spike (I think). Forgetting the details but it was reported. The producers didn't say as much about it as Stargate's producers are though.

Mr Awe

 

[Mr Awe]

I can't say I agree about Destiny's mission, I can't think of any mystery more interesting, certainly not within Stargate mythology anyway. As for seeing them get home, I'd be very surprised if that was ever the plan. It doesn't even seem like something worth seeing to me. I'd rather see them solve the mystery and be left stranded than see them randomly find a way home.

I'm guessing they had written themselves into a corner with the mission. What could they possibly dream up that would be satisfying. It's not like they would reveal the true meaning of life, the real face of good, or anything like that. It would just be some fictional mumbo jumbo that couldn't possibly live up to expectations.

Mr Awe

Apparently they'd had the ending planned since season 1.

That may or may not be true. I don't know. But, it's irrelevent. It doesn't mean that they'd be able to deliver a reasonable payoff on something like that. I mean, what, they're going to reveal the true meaning of life?!

No, it would just be another, more powerful alien species that existed earlier in time. We've had those already. Or, even if it was a message from God, what could they possibly say about a true god?! Nothing!

Mr Awe

 

[AJ86]

I'm not sure what they could have done either, but that's probably more a failure of imagination on our part that anything else.

 

[Agent Richard07]

No surprise. The ENT producers went through the same routine of trying to shop it around, movies, what not. It didn't happen there and it certainly wasn't going to happen here.

No, there were reported attempts of them shopping it around to places like Spike (I think). Forgetting the details but it was reported. The producers didn't say as much about it as Stargate's producers are though.

I thought that Sci Fi wanted to pick up Enterprise, but Berman wasn't interested. I don't remember anyone on Paramount's end trying to shop it around.

The whole problem with the Mission thing is time. I mean Destiny has been traveling for around a million years? So is it going to reach the end of the universe during the crew's life span?? seems kind of a stretch..

I never thought of Destiny's mission as going to a particular location.

I stopped watching SGA in year two because I thought it was dreadfully dull and an SG1 rehash with less likable characters.
With BSG's success, you can't go back to the old Trek-ish sci-fi TV formula. BSG proved that is not what today's audience wants.
SGU got me watching the franchise again. I actually liked that they modified the premise to BSG-ize it. If it had been more like SGA in tone, I wouldn't have watched it.

That's pretty much how I feel. After shows like BSG which raised the bar, it's hard to go back to the old format.

My guess is that Destiny was intended by the ancients to seed the Big Bang of the next cycle of the cosmos, and that the message in the cosmic background radiation will turn out to be from the progenitors of this cycle - maybe by a version of Destiny in the previous one. Though that does sound a lot like nuBSG's "This has all happened before, and it will all happen again".

Interesting way to work in yet another BSG parallel. SGU is already filled with them, or so it seems.

 

[AJ86]

BSG didn't prove that people don't want the old format at all, it's ratings were practically identical to SG-1 and Atlantis' when they ran alongside each other, and relative to the hype, it's number were actually pretty poor. For better or worse, I'd say there's still a market for the more generic Trek style sci-fi shows. I just hope that another channel rushes into fill the niche that Syfy seems to be abandoning. Perhaps Spike will take the mantle for genre shows?

 

[bigdaddy]

^ BSG had hype because it wasn't mindless action, it was a satire on the modern world, which is why it got the hype that Stargate never did and never will get.

Stargate is just lame big bad guys getting bigger and badder every season and the humans somehow beating them every time.

 

[AJ86]

You spend a lot of time in the Stargate folder for someone who thinks is "lame".

 

[Saquist]

BSG didn't prove that people don't want the old format at all, it's ratings were practically identical to SG-1 and Atlantis' when they ran alongside each other, and relative to the hype, it's number were actually pretty poor. For better or worse, I'd say there's still a market for the more generic Trek style sci-fi shows. I just hope that another channel rushes into fill the niche that Syfy seems to be abandoning. Perhaps Spike will take the mantle for genre shows?

That's not true SG-1 had pretty steady ratings over it's tenure.
It was SGA and SGU that had a continous slide.

 

[AJ86]

BSG didn't prove that people don't want the old format at all, it's ratings were practically identical to SG-1 and Atlantis' when they ran alongside each other, and relative to the hype, it's number were actually pretty poor. For better or worse, I'd say there's still a market for the more generic Trek style sci-fi shows. I just hope that another channel rushes into fill the niche that Syfy seems to be abandoning. Perhaps Spike will take the mantle for genre shows?

That's not true SG-1 had pretty steady ratings over it's tenure.
It was SGA and SGU that had a continous slide.

It is true. The ratings are all on Gateworld. All three series had a ratings high in the same year SG-1 was in it's 8th season, and from then on they all followed the same decline.

http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s8/ratings.shtml
http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s9/ratings.shtml
http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s10/ratings.shtml

 

[arch101]

[/QUOTE]How do you define success didn't nuBSG's ratings get lower and lower as time went on?[/QUOTE]

Find me another sci-fi series that got close to BSG's buzz in the last 10 years. A lot of people were excited about the show and it actually brought in non-sci-fi audience. I know sci-fi fans who don't even know there was more than one Stargate series.

 

[Jax]

All three series had a ratings high in the same year SG-1 was in it's 8th season, and from then on they all followed the same decline.

Well the break up of SCI FI friday and moving the shows from airing during summer times for a while didn't help either. What pisses me off was the DVD's made a profit and it still gets cancelled. At the very least the fans are owned one movie either SG-1 or crossover that gives us a final goodbye...

SG is the worst run franchise ever IMO because 3 shows wih no proper series finales and no closure whatsoever

 

[USS Kongo]

I pretty much figured the cancellation of SGU was the end of the Stargate saga, but was still holding out hope for one more movie, or something. Now it's really the end.

If it ever comes back, I really hope it isn't as a reboot. One thing I enjoyed about SGU was seeing Jack O'Neill and Sam Carter pop up every now and then. If there's ever a new SG project some time down the road, I hope it keeps advancing the story forward.

Sean

 

[brian577]

All three series had a ratings high in the same year SG-1 was in it's 8th season, and from then on they all followed the same decline.

SG is the worst run franchise ever IMO because 3 shows wih no proper series finales and no closure whatsoever

SG-1 got Ark of Truth and Continuum, I'd say it got plenty of closure. Atlantis on the other hand...

 

[dru]

Find me another sci-fi series that got close to BSG's buzz in the last 10 years. A lot of people were excited about the show and it actually brought in non-sci-fi audience.

Buzz doesn't pay the bills.

People were excited for the franchise, not RDM's version of it which went no where except down in ratings.

SGU was the first SG series I've watched.