Don't be a buzzkill.
Plenty of dudes make it to 120.
Plenty of dudes make it to 120.
LOL Class
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In my book, it's a crime that William Russell has not appeared in modern Who, at least as a cameo. It would've been easy in the 50th, or one of the stories that took place at the school. An elderly Ian meeting a youthful appearing Doctor would've been a wonderful reversal of how they original met!
Mr Awe
Mr Awe
The events of Miracle Day cannot be easily reconciled with the present day events of Doctor Who Series 6, given that the dates given in both clash with each other; Amy and Rory (and Mels) are on Earth during the Miracle, and should therefore be immortal when they meet the Doctor in the cornfield in "Let's Kill Hitler." It should be the first thing they mention to him, and when Mels is shot by Hitler and is forced to regenerate, Amy and Rory should expect her to "survive" on some level, as a Category 1.
Jacqueline Hill passed away in 1993. William Russell will be 92 this year, but is still doing the odd bit of acting; certainly he's still a regular contributor to the Big Finish output.
I recall reading that that very thing was planned for "The Day of the Doctor", but Mr. Russell had to decline or back out due to ill health, and the scene with the young teacher, Tom, delivering the message to Clara was written instead. He was at least able to record a brief cameo in An Adventure In Space and Time (as was Carole Ann Ford).
Even though Let's Kill Hitler aired while Miracle Day was still airing, the actual time periods within show continuity don't match up. Within continuity, the actual Miracle Day event was in March 2011, and was resolved in July. Let's Kill Hitler takes place in some unspecified point in fall, or late summer 2011.
It's honestly difficult to be enthusiastic about Class at this point, given that we know very little about it. We know who its writer is, we know its target audience (a Young Adult audience, so older than Who's target audience), and we know (roughly) when it will air.
Like Brendan, I think this series was a non-Who concept that was retrofitted into a Who spin-off. Torchwood began as an unrelated RTD script ("Excalibur"), after all.
As we learn more about the casting and the writing, as the marketing machine gears up to promote the series, then the audience will feel enthusiastic. Or not. At this point, it's too early, imho.
I doubt that Moffat used the Paternoster Gang several times because he was trying to launch a spin-off. I think he simply liked using them as foils for the Doctor.
There are a lot of factors that would go into greenlighting a spin-off. One major factor would be budget -- can the series be realized on the money the network is willing to pony up? A modern day series set in a school will be vastly more affordable than a period series set in the late 19th-century.
However, telling people that "Yes, half the Sherlock Budget this year is going to be spent on 19th century wardrobe for no discernable reason" didn't raise no red flags?
Either on TV or with BF, both Vastra and Strax has backstories I would love to see fleshed out. We hardly know anything about what Strax's clone batch did that was so dishonorable that the Doctor "sentenced" him to be a nurse. Vastra's awakening during the construction of the London underground was mentioned in such fleeting fashion I didn't even catch it the first time around.
"LOL Class" would be a great title for this show's equivalent of Whovian Whumour.
As for ages, it seems that they'll skew towards the Young Adult end of the spectrum.
New characters, so presumably new actors. Not that Ness couldn't make a silk purse out of the sow's ear that was the class in that Who episode, of course.
As for ages, it seems that they'll skew towards the Young Adult end of the spectrum.
Honestly I will be very surprised if Class has any kind of meaningful connection to the Who universe beyond being set in Coal Hill. And if it does, it'll probably just be a Hoix cameo.
It would be nice to see an Ian cameo, even if just in the background of a board of governors meeting or something.
I wonder if there will be much cross over with the main show? Will the Doctor or anyone else like Kate or Osgood, show up, or will we even get an episode of the parent show set there? At the end of the day there has to be some linkage, even if its just that once a season UNIT have to get involved.
I wonder if there will be much cross over with the main show? Will the Doctor or anyone else like Kate or Osgood, show up, or will we even get an episode of the parent show set there? At the end of the day there has to be some linkage, even if its just that once a season UNIT have to get involved.
According to Radio Times, Peter Capaldi is being sized up for an appearance as the Doctor. Who knows if it will pan out, or it's all media beat-up.
Well a Doctor Who spin off needs a connection to Doctor Who aside from a location.
The three spin offs so far has companions as a central character. (K-9, Sarah Jane, Captain Jack). If Class does not have Clara or Ian, than it will need something to set it off, like an appearance of the Doctor (the janitor).
The three spin offs so far has companions as a central character. (K-9, Sarah Jane, Captain Jack). If Class does not have Clara or Ian, than it will need something to set it off, like an appearance of the Doctor (the janitor).
Radio Times is owned by the BBC, so if they're saying Capaldi might appear in the show, there is some serious discussion on the matter.
Though to be honest, I don't know how I feel about that. Oh yes, it'll be great to see the Doctor on the show, and even better since there's only one actual episode of Doctor Who this year. But, I personally would have held off on any crossovers until the second season, use the first to establish the cast. Indeed, Torchwood waited until its second season before any Doctor Who characters showed up, and SJA waited until the third for the Doctor to make an appearance.
At the very least, I would prefer Capaldi's appearance be around the middle of the season, again to let the show stand on its own. But I expect he'll be in the first episode.
It's a bit of a dilemma, have the Doctor in the first episode and you risk overshadowing the cast, don't have him show up and you risk people not bothering to tune in.
And surely Torchwood had a Doctor Who character from the get go?
(as did the Sarah Jane Adventures)
And surely Torchwood had a Doctor Who character from the get go?
(as did the Sarah Jane Adventures)It's a minor crime that William Russell hasn't appeared on DW yet. The 50th would've been an awesome moment with an elderly Ian meeting a young Doctor. Looks like it'll go the same route as Nicholas Courtney who will never get to appear in new DW proper.
It really shows a basic lack of thinking in TPTB.
Mr Awe
It was - its been produced by a private company since 2011.
I am of course referring to someone other than the leads of those shows being from Doctor Who.And surely Torchwood had a Doctor Who character from the get go?
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