Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by Voodoowoman2, Jan 3, 2023.
It would have been a wild time!
This is exactly the reason why I get annoyed when people bring up 'Gene's Rules of Nacelles' or whatever as some kind of holy gospel, when in fact Roddenberry didn't give a shit about nacelles. He just wanted to discredit Franz Joseph Schnaubelt's tech manual because Roddenberry wasn't making any money off of it.
I found it mind-bogglingly the producers blew up the ship in question, afraid to give the fan-film an organic conclusion. Work out Vic-Kirk making a decision in the court room, but it stuck too much in connecting the dots where Spock had to remain on the Enterprise for future fan-films where he didn't have to be. In TMP Spock wasn't commissioned on the Enterprise in the beginning, do something with that gap of time. I also thought the Hillary Clinton allegory was too on the nose and gave a big hint of these fan filmmakers political preference, something I never got from TOS.
I don't recall in TOS ever establishing Starships had a "WARP CORE" ugh!
That’s a new one on me.
There's also this:
Klingonese or Klingonei? I've always heard it said as Klingonese but Korax says Klingonei in Trouble With Tribbles, so did Michael Pataki make a fluff or has the word changed over the years?
You know, I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who routinely begins correspondence with "Have forgotten to bring up the subject of Klingons . . . "
I could swear he said Klingonese. Must watch again to check.
The script says Klingonese. The whole script is included in the 1973 book The Trouble with Tribbles.
But the actor said Klingonee in the barroom scene. I think he flubbed the line and they kept going because "it's alien, so who's to say?"
Maybe it's a silent "s".
I’ve always heard an S. Did I add it unconcsciously?
Klingonei sounds alien to me than some backyard Asian language.
It would be interesting to start over, knowing all the things that caused difficulties and inpediments, with a new show completely divorced from Star Trek and Paramount and CBS. Something similarly based on the parallel or alternate Earths idea, visited by a crew in the business of defending and bringing back information to this Earth. Just not always defending Earth, for God’s sake. That trope has gotten so old as to be nearly unwatchable.
He very clearly says 'Klingonee.' Whether that was what was supposed to come out of his mouth, is another story.
Mandela Effect. I supplied the s. Psychoacoustics: heard what I thougt I should.
I have a pretty good ear and I actually still think the "s" is in there, but just barely. I also think there's a sound edit in there, possibly because they wanted a really good evil laugh and they had to stitch the best one of those - which is fantastic in the final cut - with the dialogue, and maybe those involved different takes. The fact that there's a sort of odd and unneeded (and relatively lengthy) camera cut away from the Klingon XO while he delivers all of that dialogue and the laugh supports my theory.
You're not alone. I heard an "s" in there, both in the original episode, and when watching "Trials and Tribble-ations." However, I will put a blame on reading the novelization too.
Maybe that's just how Klingons pronounce the name of their language? Klingonese... So either a flub on Michael Pataki's part or a sound cut made seconds just too early?
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